The car has just failed its MOT.

Its failed on

1. Headlamp beam being too low

2. Offside rear tie bar/rod has excessive play in pin/bush

3. All underside metal brake pipes excessively corroded

4. a tyre which i have replacements

5. Indicators on the front which is easy to change

6. Front windscreen washer dont work

7. Offside outer front sill body has excessive corrosion, seriously affecting its strength within 30cm of the body mountings (needs welding)

:shock: :cry: :slap:

 

Anyone help me with this or know where i can get parts needed for cheap.

 

If you can help then please let me know asap as need MOT sorting out.

 

Thanks

Bird

hi bird,i would suggest you either hand this car into a garage and get it all fixed or get rid of it as its been causing you nothing but bother,and next time DONT BUY A UK CAR!!! :smash:

 

Paul

Why do you no someone who has some tubs then?

why don't you get someone to "take it away and set fire to it", claim off your insurance.......

 

me me me me lol ;)

why don't you get someone to "take it away and set fire to it", claim off your insurance.......

 

Hey I suggested that first and he'll even get £40 back, plus he gets to entertain the members one last time :rofl:

We can all be witnesses to the fact that we saw it go up in flames before our eyes!

 

Seriously mate, I'd get rid.

It's going to cost an absolute fortune to get that lot sorted for the MOT.

Mac has had his brake lines done and it was serious money alone - I think the rear subframe has to come off for a start.

When you've done it all you've still got a car with loads of running problems and it's still going to be rusting away.

 

Even a good Z can give you some big bills from time to time so throwing money at a bad one is not a good idea :(

Hey I suggested that first and he'll even get £40 back, plus he gets to entertain the members one last time :rofl:

We can all be witnesses to the fact that we saw it go up in flames before our eyes!

 

Seriously mate, I'd get rid.

It's going to cost an absolute fortune to get that lot sorted for the MOT.

Mac has had his brake lines done and it was serious money alone - I think the rear subframe has to come off for a start.

When you've done it all you've still got a car with loads of running problems and it's still going to be rusting away.

 

Even a good Z can give you some big bills from time to time so throwing money at a bad one is not a good idea :(

 

problem is when it goes bang it will miss everyone else, go round three corners weave in and out of other people and STILL land on Bird :p

 

he is to luck what fred west is to babysitters

3/brake pipes,to the rear :cry: oh the joys

3/brake pipes,to the rear :cry: oh the joys

 

I suppose you could just blank the pipes off and use front brakes only :D

It doesn't go fast enough to need 4 brakes! :rofl:

Hey Bird, the welding is the big bug here because the cill areas are quite complex metalwork due to them providing extra strength to the body for the targa tops, so welding will not be straight forward. If you can keep the price down on this, the rest aint so bad. I would be tempted to clean your brake pipes up with some wire wool and see just how bad they are. If they are bad, measure them up and try a few motor shops that make them up for a price. just go for basic piping not the fancy material type. And then there is the ball joint, you might be able to fit that yourself. Washers headlights etc are easy. Stay positive and try to assess the total costs of getting the car back on the road.

I suppose you could just blank the pipes off and use front brakes only :D

It doesn't go fast enough to need 4 brakes! :rofl:

problem solved :rofl:

 

or spray the brake pipes with hammerite underseal-what corroded brake pipes sir

TBH if you can do the work yourself then the costs aren't too bad....not sure on the bushes tho, I 've just had to replace the 3 front to back brake lines on mine as 2 blew out at 60......no brakes oh sh1t. it cost me about £40 for the pipe and fluid and took me about 3 hrs to do.....It's a PITA to get at the abs connections but possible with the rear wheel off and the plastic covers......no need to remove anything else.

 

 

oh and hire a brake pipe flaring tool for the weekend ......should only be a few quid.

 

 

Pete

or spray the brake pipes with hammerite underseal-what corroded brake pipes sir

If it wasn't such a dangerous idea it would be genius!

 

TBH if you can do the work yourself then the costs aren't too bad....not sure on the bushes tho, I 've just had to replace the 3 front to back brake lines on mine as 2 blew out at 60......no brakes oh sh1t. it cost me about £40 for the pipe and fluid and took me about 3 hrs to do

Pete, you make it sound too easy. I am going to need mine done in the next 12 months but I will not be doing them myself. I'm very scared of messing with the brakes...

Sorry to hear all this mate, I think when you take your car to be welded it might be worth asking them what you can do yourself to help lower the cost of the job ie: Remove some of the interior carpet and trim yourself. As for the brakes could'nt you just buy these ebay hoses:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8025398628&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT As for the front windscreen washer not working if you take off the wheel arch liners and look at the wiring you might just find it's a loose wire which you could easily repair with electrical connectors. As for the other stuff see the above comments. Hope you get it sorted bud.

buy these ebay hoses:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8025398628&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

 

I would strongly advise AGAINST buying these hoses as they appear not to have the line locators. These locators are an absolute MUST and without them the car will fail an MOT.

 

As far as I know I [DTA] am the only place in the UK where you can get Goodridge braided hoses with line locators. These kits are not put together by Goodridge and I have to get a separate company to fit them to the lines.

 

Price wise you're looking at £100 per set from me, which includes front and rear lines. (Got two sets in stock at the moment)

 

Dan

Bud if you where closer to me I would help you out as much as I could got a guy near me who I know is a good welder its a shame your so far away chin up buddy its only a car at the end of the day;)

As for the brakes could'nt you just buy these ebay hoses:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8025398628&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

 

They are just the flexible lines to the calipers - Bird needs all the hard pipes replacing from the front to the back of the car I think. They run underneath the chassis and under various suspension parts :rolleyes: :(

They are just the flexible lines to the calipers - Bird needs all the hard pipes replacing from the front to the back of the car I think. They run underneath the chassis and under various suspension parts :rolleyes: :(

 

 

off subject bud can you still get me dizzy the egg games :nana2: and no not the chris@getdizzy type :tongue:

hiya bird sorry to hear that mate not sure about the rest but for the welding try maxwell street motors in south shields i know he can do it cos he had 1 in a couple of weeks ago for the same problem (that must have been a uk car aswell). sorry could'nt resist. hope she gets well soon.

fook sake you've not had much luck with that car. sorry to hear you need so much doing for the mot, but I theres a couple of things the mot station havent done properly, ie may have failed the car incorrectly.

 

sills corroded at the body mounts ????? aint no body mounts on a Z chassis,to fail the corrosion has to be within 30cm of a specified component on the Z that means brakes, steering, suspension or seat belt mounting fook all to do with body mounts.

 

all brake pipes corroded, he's just being lazy and didnt want to list them individually as he's supposed to, hard to believe all the pipes are fooked and he probably couldnt see half them anyway.

 

have a look at the sill and brake pipes, if the corrosion on the sill is outwith 30cm of any of the above components and any of the underside brake pipes look ok ( surface corrosion is considered ok, remember he said all pipes so every single one has got to be corroded to excess) then get straight back to the garage tell him you aint happy and ask for a VT 17 appeals form to send to VOSA he has got to give you one.

 

If you need to go down the road of an appeal it will cost the price of a test but if you get some of the more costly items knocked of the fail it may be worth it.

 

ps. couple of my brake pipes were picked up at last years test, because of the work involved to do them I did the lot 2 days of pure fun!!!!

 

 

good luck things must start getting better soon

mgh297, I gotta do the rest of them before the mot cause i know it'll fail, can't understand why the japanese ran the piping etc so close to the wheels then covered with a plastic trim............just retains all the wet stuff and speeds up the corrosion.

 

Bird, had you been closer mate I'd have given you a hand with the motor, welding and brakes not a problem----never had to any of my bushes yet but I'd give it a go.

 

I think it fair to say to everyone else............check you brake lines, as I said earlier 2 of mine failed last saturday, try to going from 60 to 0 when the pedal suddenly hits the firewall is not funny, had to drive home at 25mph and allow loads of time to stop using the handbrake, luckily for me I was just out of town when they failed and not alot of traffic.

 

 

 

Pete

fook sake you've not had much luck with that car. sorry to hear you need so much doing for the mot, but I theres a couple of things the mot station havent done properly, ie may have failed the car incorrectly.

 

sills corroded at the body mounts ????? aint no body mounts on a Z chassis,to fail the corrosion has to be within 30cm of a specified component on the Z that means brakes, steering, suspension or seat belt mounting fook all to do with body mounts.

 

all brake pipes corroded, he's just being lazy and didnt want to list them individually as he's supposed to, hard to believe all the pipes are fooked and he probably couldnt see half them anyway.

 

have a look at the sill and brake pipes, if the corrosion on the sill is outwith 30cm of any of the above components and any of the underside brake pipes look ok ( surface corrosion is considered ok, remember he said all pipes so every single one has got to be corroded to excess) then get straight back to the garage tell him you aint happy and ask for a VT 17 appeals form to send to VOSA he has got to give you one.

 

If you need to go down the road of an appeal it will cost the price of a test but if you get some of the more costly items knocked of the fail it may be worth it.

 

ps. couple of my brake pipes were picked up at last years test, because of the work involved to do them I did the lot 2 days of pure fun!!!!

 

 

good luck things must start getting better soon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

80% of the brake pipes are clearly visible from just in front of the rear drivers wheel up to the abs and across to the passengerside......if more than one of these is badly corroded then I fail to see why the tester should list them individually

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pete

just been out and checked my z and unless corrosion at front of sill is within 30 cm of front outer seat mounting bolt then its definately not a fail examiner has failed your z and used a reason which only applies to something wit a seperate chassis i.e. a landrover to fail yours which is wrong, i would also check your brake pipes as many examiners fail brake pipes at the first signs of rust when the fail criteria is excessively corroded, easy way to check brake pipes is to try bending them where they are rusty if they feel springy they are ok but if they bend theyre knackered, if you need new pipes they are quite cheap if you can do it your self ,take old pipes off and take them to a small gara\ge they should be able to make them up for you at a reasonable price, same with suspension bush take off part with duff bush and get garage to change it for you. it will save you loads if you can find a small local garage willing to do these small jobs for you.

Hi Bird, my Father and I just fixed a rusty sill on my car (1990 UK). MOT fail from 18 months ago :mac1:

 

We ended up making all the parts we needed, but Luke @ The Z Centre sell a few parts needed for this job.

 

Not many L reg UK zeds out there any more. Keep it on the road mate. The sill is the most difficult thing on your list.

 

http://www.zcentre.co.uk/others/others.shtml

 

 

useless post sorry. and the next one FFS

ouch you must be the unluckiest owner here.

off subject bud can you still get me dizzy the egg games :nana2: and no not the chris@getdizzy type :tongue:

 

LOL I forgot to have a look.

I'll try over the weekend when I'm giving my arcade machine a good hammering (and the bird :p ) :rofl:

Sure I've got em but I've got so many PC's I don't know which drive it's on LOL