I have been thinking this for a while now.

 

When I owned my C64 I think there where very few games which I actually "finished", and to get good enough to finish tany game you would have to play it for a very long time. Many games I would get so far and then get stuck not able to progress. I would sometimes go back to the games weeks later and get further.

 

Then along came Mega Drive and SNES where, games where quite hard but persist and you would probably finish them. Every game I owned I finished within 3 days. I think my record was Sonic 2 which I finished on my 2nd go. But I did play them a lot. The game which took the longest to play was Ecco The Dolphin, that that took 7 days. Now that was a hard game.

 

But now you just have to play the game long enough and you do it. Most games you cant really die anymore, you just turn up at the last save spot with your energy regenerated, while old games, once your 3 lives are gone, you had to start all over again. Few games had continues and the ones which did they where limited not infinate like now.

You go into some hard or pinical part of games now knowing if you die, that you can try again in a few mins and have different tactics. While old games my heart used to pound going into a new area or confronting a new boss, knowing that this is my only chance. If I die I will have to start over again, and even so I may not reach this boss.

 

Can you imagine games like Nemisis and R-Type now? You get hit by 1 bullet on the screen and your dead. You start again at the begining of the level with all your mods gone. Its like having a bad crash on GT4 and you have to start again because you died.

 

I think this is also why the small Java and Flash games around the web are so addictive. They are old style games where you can actually see yourself getting better, and you feel the achievement of each time you play it you get better or further.

 

Do any of you agree with this?

I would love to have a games again where there is a chance that I will not be good enough to finish it. It gives me a reason to keep going back.

I never finished R-Type on the Speccy, that was HARD... but very good at the same time.

 

I dont play any games other than GT4 on the PS2 these days, so can't comment on the latest generation of games.

 

Operation wolf was one of the first to have continues i think, but you only had a few, and i never finished that either LOL

 

Renegade and Target renegade were my fave beat-em ups

 

ahhhhhhhhh those were the days............

I just bought FIA GTR for the PC as i've mainly played PS2/X-Box. I think the games are getting harder as comparing PS2/PC for example with Medal Of Honour they are like chalk and cheese on the different formats.

FIA GTR is ok on diddy level as all the brake/acceleration enhancers are on...on hard its almost impossible at this early stage.

 

Deffo think games are getting harder but as I missed out on most of the older stuff as I was a late starter.

 

Cheers John Crisp

I just bought FIA GTR for the PC as i've mainly played PS2/X-Box. I think the games are getting harder as comparing PS2/PC for example with Medal Of Honour they are like chalk and cheese on the different formats.

FIA GTR is ok on diddy level as all the brake/acceleration enhancers are on...on hard its almost impossible at this early stage.

 

Deffo think games are getting harder but as I missed out on most of the older stuff as I was a late starter.

 

Cheers John Crisp

 

Stick with it mate - easily the best driving sim since GPL!

Are computer games getting easier?

 

No mate your just becoming sad and spending too much time playing computor games :x:

Mujina I agree with you its just I dont get the time on the PC like i used to, kids gettin older spending their time on it etc but it is a gr8 game.

 

Cheers John Crisp

There is a article in Toms Hardware about this http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20050902/index.html

 

It does indeed say that games are getting easier. Part of this reason is that game devellopers want players to see all the fancy content in the game.

 

I thought Doom3 was hard.. and very dull.

 

HalfLife 2 is the best single player experience i have ever had. Its brilliant. Its difficulty i thought was set just right.

Games are definetly a lot easier these days.

When playing on speccy's and old arcade games a high score matered and you carried on until you died or finished the game, with 3 lives (1 credit)

How many games of today are like this?

Games today you never really improve your own abitities getting through the game because you have instant saves, and re-attempt the hard bit with a fresh bar of health :rolleyes:

I remember years ago, whenever I went abroad I would pick a arcade and finish the game i.e. Manx TT superbike, Daytona Racing....the list goes on.

The other week I finished Outrun 2 when I went to southport, I must of only played it twice before :rolleyes:

I only really play racing games on the PS2 (can't wait for burnout revenge!)

I only really play first person shooters on the PC.

Online play is the way to go, some ba5tard always gets you when you least expect it!

splatter house was good,as was r-type but difficult as once your dead your dead

 

i seem to loose interest in games quickly i play them sold for hours then dont play them for weeks i think its due to the fact there easier due to the saving process with mem cards

 

bring back paperboy PMSL

hmm the good old days....my 1st comp was a atari 800xl and i played kickstart till i broke the joystick

then i got an amiga 64 class

then after a while off i got a proper amiga and played speedball and gauntlet till my fingers bled

then came the ps1 and tekken....i still have the scars...i should be on disabillity the damage my thumbs took. and resident evil how cool and wipeout2097..sweet.

ive been a clan gamer now for years and have given it up cos off running a pub and not having time, my team got to 1st in the worldwide ladder for unreal tournament and we won tournys and......then i realised all my friends were GEEKS

so i bough a Z and hung out with you lot instead

Games easier? I prefer to think that i'm getting better! :D

The biggest difference is that these days you can save most games whenever you want where as a few years ago you could only save them at the end of the level.

PS. I am currently doing Medal of honour allied assault spearhead and it is brilliant....The graphics might not be as good as later games but the actual game play is superb!!

True. Three words for you. "The Last Ninja". Another two words to go with 'em. "Stepping stones". Any die hard, old school, chocolate digestive eating gamer of the 80's will, by now, be automatically breaking into uncontrollable cold sweats at the thought of how Christing annoying something seemingly so simple as crossing a ruddy river could be. And it was on the first level for God's sake! Lol! :D ;) Fantastic game but definately a good example of how difficult those early games could be.

 

Don't get chance to play much these days but recently treated myself to "God of War". Wow. Absolutely blown away by this. Everything is perfect, from the in-game characters, difficulty curve, film quality cut-scenes, I could go on. Only took a week to finish but it's so well put together that it makes you want to play again at the harder "God" level and unlock all the secret bits. Haven't got myself lost in a game since the Resident Evil series. Highly recommended! :)

 

Leigh.

True. Three words for you. "The Last Ninja". Another two words to go with 'em. "Stepping stones". Any die hard, old school, chocolate digestive eating gamer of the 80's will, by now, be automatically breaking into uncontrollable cold sweats at the thought of how Christing annoying something seemingly so simple as crossing a ruddy river could be. And it was on the first level for God's sake! Lol! :D ;) Fantastic game but definately a good example of how difficult those early games could be.

 

Don't get chance to play much these days but recently treated myself to "God of War". Wow. Absolutely blown away by this. Everything is perfect, from the in-game characters, difficulty curve, film quality cut-scenes, I could go on. Only took a week to finish but it's so well put together that it makes you want to play again at the harder "God" level and unlock all the secret bits. Haven't got myself lost in a game since the Resident Evil series. Highly recommended! :)

 

Leigh.

 

LOL. I remember that. Last Ninja 2 was much better and harder. Actually they are 2 of the games on the C64 that I finished and it felt like such an achievement doing it. It also took me a very long time to do it.

 

No mate your just becoming sad and spending too much time playing computor games :x:

 

But thats the problem. I probably play about 3 hours a week at the most and I am finishing games very easy. I used to play for hours a day and never finish them.

Last Ninja 2 was excellent, but the one I wasted ALL my time on was...

 

Elite.

 

Way ahead of its time.

 

Now I think stand-alone games have lost their way. Old-school-style Flash games and evolving online games are the only ones worth playing now. Unfortunately I just don't have time to invest in that kind of thing any more.

 

Gonna give Eve a shortish go just because it sounds like it's the online version of Elite...

 

Mark

Gonna give Eve a shortish go just because it sounds like it's the online version of Elite...

 

Mark

 

try x2 the threat now thats a fkn amazing elite style game...

 

amazing ships (carriers with upto 30 fighters etc.. attacks ships.. list goes on)

you can leave a ship in space and jet pack to another, jump gates.. trade, upgrade.. the list goes on...

 

http://www.enlight.com/x2/

I think some games are getting easier like FPS, half life 2 is still quite easy on the Normal level, but just ramp the difficulty level to hard and it is a lot more challenging!

Online games are best for difficulty and longevity like BF2, there is no substitute for human opponents!

 

Anyone remember IK+ for the C64? Now that was a game!

lol double dragon , paperboy..pole position ..all classics !! But i do find Forza Mororsport on xbox an excelent driving sim , best one out so fat i think.

 

Still shocked we paid over £1000 for an Amiga 500 with a 1 meg upgrade back then !!

 

But who remembers PONG on the original atari 2600 !! Yep i had one !!

I'm still stuck on "Horace Goes Skiing" :(

I'm still stuck on "Horace Goes Skiing" :(

 

 

i think i played that jim LOL

 

is that where you have to cross a busy motorway and then go down the ski slope :smash:

i think i played that jim LOL

 

is that where you have to cross a busy motorway and then go down the ski slope :smash:

 

:p That's the one, I remember playing that on christmas day way back in 198?.

1982

eve is awesome but has a very very steep learning curve and takes up a lot of ure time

most modern games are easy but the best series ogf games played is the medal of honour games and not forgetting all of the gran turismo series try them on hard or proffesional and well you dont get far before you die and on MoH you dont get a new bar of health at the start of each level you have to find the pickups.

I liked the old adventure games

 

Space Quest

Kings Quest,

Police quest

Monkey Island

sam and max

Hugos house of horrors

Manic mansion

day of the tentacle

leisure suit larry

grim fandago

Indiana Jones

Full Throttle

The dig

 

 

 

 

and quite a few others, unfortunately they are made anymore as people like everything in 3D and don;t like to think about things, just point and shoot. You had a sense of achievement when you completed these games

I liked the old adventure games

 

Space Quest

Kings Quest,

Police quest

Monkey Island

sam and max

Hugos house of horrors

Manic mansion

day of the tentacle

leisure suit larry

grim fandago

Indiana Jones

Full Throttle

The dig

 

 

 

 

and quite a few others, unfortunately they are made anymore as people like everything in 3D and don;t like to think about things, just point and shoot. You had a sense of achievement when you completed these games

The Secret of Monkey Island, Leisure Suit Larry 3 and Indy Jones and the Last Crusade/Fate of Atlantis rank amongst my favorite ever adventure games. Top quality stuff...they definately don't make 'em like that anymore! :D