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NO!!! my viper wing are on but there is a problem.

Just picked up car from body shop, but the viper wings i bought are crap now they are sprayed there is ripples every where and because its metalic black they really show up, i have emailed ebay seller and waiting for a reply as to what to do about it. So bewre all you other members the in perfections are in the mould so they will all be like it :eek: I am a bit pi55ed off right now even though my bodyshop guy tried his best to remove ripples its not perfect and he said it would cost a fair bit to cut into fibre glass wings and fill and reshape etc :cry: :cry: :hurl: Oh what to do??

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Not good mate! :(

Sorry to hear that mate, though knowing a little bit about bodywork, i'd be more inclined to blame your bodyshop...

 

They should have been flatted and filled just like normal, and the sprayer should have spotted any flaws on his inspection and rubbing down of the primer coat.

 

imo, i think the body shop is fobbing you off mate.

 

i hope you get it sorted, cause i know you were very excited about them mate.

 

keep ya chin up dude, these things are sent to try us

I'm inclined to agree with T-Pot on this.

 

I was going to buy some myself and I am sorry to hear the bad news ...

Ive put some on mine needed a little buiding here and there but not to bad.

Hopefully they will be sprayed this week :bow: :bow: :bow:

Sorry to hear that mate, though knowing a little bit about bodywork, i'd be more inclined to blame your bodyshop...

 

They should have been flatted and filled just like normal, and the sprayer should have spotted any flaws on his inspection and rubbing down of the primer coat.

 

imo, i think the body shop is fobbing you off mate.

 

i hope you get it sorted, cause i know you were very excited about them mate.

 

keep ya chin up dude, these things are sent to try us

Absolutely agree. And TBH it's not a difficult thing to put right IMO (bodywork being an interest of mine)...it's basic stuff! A light guide coat would've shown up any imperfections (something you should ALWAYS do to get a good finish). I don't understand why, if there were imperfections still there, they even contemplated spraying it! What would be the point!? Sorry to hear you're having this hassle mate. Unfortunately it's another example of bodyshops not coming up to par, something that seems rife these days :mad:

 

Leigh

ive got them on and with any fiberglass you have to prep them very good!!!!

 

crap bodyshop to me not wings!!

Sounds like a cop-out to me. Surely the body shop should have seen this problem before they acctually laid the paint on???

I would maybe get professional advice.

Sorry to hear that mate, though knowing a little bit about bodywork, i'd be more inclined to blame your bodyshop...

 

They should have been flatted and filled just like normal, and the sprayer should have spotted any flaws on his inspection and rubbing down of the primer coat.

 

imo, i think the body shop is fobbing you off mate.

:smash: :smash: Spot on T.......hit the nail on the head so to speak :D

if it was a reputable bodyshop there job is to modify,any imperfections should be sorted with ease,inclined to agree with the above TBH

 

hope it gets sorted ok mate ;)

Absolutely agree. And TBH it's not a difficult thing to put right IMO (bodywork being an interest of mine)...it's basic stuff! A light guide coat would've shown up any imperfections (something you should ALWAYS do to get a good finish). I don't understand why, if there were imperfections still there, they even contemplated spraying it! What would be the point!?

 

Absolutely agree too, as bodywork/painting is part of my zed hobby

Whoever did this cant possibly have done a guide coat. Or if they have they have just ignored the result and carried on with the gloss..

well we are all in agreement aren't we .. so what advice do we give speedemon .. he must be pissed off big time ...

 

My advice would be to go back to the shop with all this information but maybe someone can offer some more constructive advice than that ...

It sounds like they baked it after painting rather than let it air dry , low bake ovens get very hot and this can cause fibreglass to soften slightly and cause rippling :headvswal Afew years back Mantav8 built a Cobra replica i spent months sorting the bodywork out , we had it sprayed and left to air dry , it looked the mutts, we went to a kit car show where the car was parked all day in the sun , a day or two later we notice a fair amount of rippling had appeared in the bodywork :headvswal :headvswal.

Any body having their car sprayed who has a fair bit of fibreglass mods done i would always tell the body shop to let it air dry.Just done this with my own :hyper: :hyper:

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Now i really dont know what to do, i have always seen this chap and with scratches and key marks he is spot on. He said he would do both wings for £240 cash i have not paid him yet but i was going to pay him tommorow, i have printed off all your comments and was going to show him and see what he says. I didnt really want to give him a hard time as like i said i have been using him for a while and he always sorts me out a good price. But this is my pride and joy. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Everyone, see http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=436115

 

Bodyshop were aware of the Ripples when they first got the wings.

 

Dont know wether that makes any difference

 

After reading this, it does make a difference.

 

but i think the shop still need to take some blame.

 

if they had spotted the flaws, and agreed to make them good, then really they should only have painted them, if they were happy, or after your inspection.

 

even being rippled, they are never going to be too bad that they cant come out smooth.

 

however, i think i know the response your going to get from the shop.

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How much did any of you guys pay to have your wings done at a bodyshop?? I have decided i am not happy with them and i dont fell right paying for something that needs re doing.

After reading this, it does make a difference.

 

but i think the shop still need to take some blame.

 

if they had spotted the flaws, and agreed to make them good, then really they should only have painted them, if they were happy, or after your inspection.

 

even being rippled, they are never going to be too bad that they cant come out smooth.

 

however, i think i know the response your going to get from the shop.

 

Agreed. 'Glass would have to be one of the most forgiving media to work with, unlike alloy or even steel. You can hit it with a grinder, rasp file, shave file, whatever and if you go too far, just whack another mat on it and start over.

 

Even bog is sympatico with FRP. Sounds odd to me.

 

Cheers

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Just wanted to give this thread a bit of a bump.

 

James brought the wings from me and I honestly think he is being taken for a ride by the bodyshop who now seem to want to wash their hands of it.

 

does anyone know of a decent bodyshop in his area that he can get an independant opinion from?

 

from our point of view we feel the bodyshop is at fault and any issue should have been obvious at the guidecoat stage (if not before) at which point the problem could have been resolved with normal prep or by replacment wings.

 

I don't think they gave him much choice in the matter and just painted the things hoping it would be okay.

 

James is now a lot worse off with wings that aren't right and a bodyshop suggesting he take us to court!

 

any help would be apreciated as I know James just wants to get this sorted and right on his car and who can blame him!?!

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Just wanted to give this thread a bit of a bump.

 

James brought the wings from me and I honestly think he is being taken for a ride by the bodyshop who now seem to want to wash their hands of it.

 

does anyone know of a decent bodyshop in his area that he can get an independant opinion from?

 

from our point of view we feel the bodyshop is at fault and any issue should have been obvious at the guidecoat stage (if not before) at which point the problem could have been resolved with normal prep or by replacment wings.

 

I don't think they gave him much choice in the matter and just painted the things hoping it would be okay.

 

James is now a lot worse off with wings that aren't right and a bodyshop suggesting he take us to court!

 

any help would be apreciated as I know James just wants to get this sorted and right on his car and who can blame him!?!

Cheers mate, i was going to post a similar thread.

Cheers mate, i was going to post a similar thread.

 

s.c performance,give stuart a ring on 07817538802

 

based in taunton,did all my bodywork,give him a bell

And I highly recommend Steve at Bodywork Plus. His details are in the Traders section fella! ;)

 

Leigh.

And I highly recommend Steve at Bodywork Plus. His details are in the Traders section fella! ;)

 

Leigh.

 

yep and him :D

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Cheers guys, i will try sc performance first as they are a bit nearer. Also my car is sorn so its risky driving it to far.

ripples in grp can be caused by bad moulds or poor lay up ie if reinforcing ribs are added to the uderside creating too much heat it will shrink causing the gel side to shrink which can cause rippiling, as will an uneven lay up with fast curing resin, fibreglass is my game , but there are far too many dick heads out there that think they can do it, like the carbon fibre they do, have you seen those shit bonnets? back to your problem bud, its like the bricklayer and the plasterer ,,, its the plasterers job to get it flat,,, but how the fook can he do this when the bricky has built a pissed wall? let me know how you get on with your bodywork guy, if no joy i can sort it for you.

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ripples in grp can be caused by bad moulds or poor lay up ie if reinforcing ribs are added to the uderside creating too much heat it will shrink causing the gel side to shrink which can cause rippiling, as will an uneven lay up with fast curing resin, fibreglass is my game , but there are far too many dick heads out there that think they can do it, like the carbon fibre they do, have you seen those shit bonnets? back to your problem bud, its like the bricklayer and the plasterer ,,, its the plasterers job to get it flat,,, but how the fook can he do this when the bricky has built a pissed wall? let me know how you get on with your bodywork guy, if no joy i can sort it for you.

Cheers mate, I am taking it to SC Performance to see what they can do if no joy i will contact you. ;)

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