Hi chaps,

 

Wanted to get you thoughts on the following, just out of interest.

 

Was anyone at Santa POD late last year? and saw a Silver Z (high rear wing, anteras) Jap spec, HUI on the plate running?

 

Anyways, this chap bought the car last year, paid 6.5k for it, ( overpriced for the spec but never mind) had a few mods, but no major mods, only the normal boost upgrade, induction, and (an unknown) chip.

 

Anyways, he ran a 13.2 sec quater mile, and that was hitting 80-100 shot of Nitrous Oxide toward the middle of second gear only (he claims).

 

He was only runing .85 bar also. (I know this for a fact for some reason its against his religion to run a bar???)

 

This was his second attempt ever at running the Z on the strip and also just had the car in drive from the start (no reving left foot braking etc) so IMHO not a good start.

 

The guy is a friend of mine, I wasnt there but saw the slip with the time to prove it.

 

This race he claimed was against a skyline who the owner was claiming to have over 600bhp. (finished in .4 later than him).

 

Anyway, his old chap runs a business called Gas & Go in swindon fitting nitrous kits to various cars, motorbikes etc so they do know a lot about it.

 

My point being, I have heard a lot of people slagging off nitrous especialy companies who have said that nitrous oxide will not work well on a Z, and nearly all the people he speaks to who owns Z cringes when he tells them he is running nitrous, because they think that the engine will not take it?

 

Also I have heard a few people saying that nitrous is 'fake power', he has raced a few people that have asked him to turn the nitrous off as it is not 'real' power and is cheating? WTF? it's a valid tuning modification in my book>? Just depends if you have the nads to use it (because of all the negative hype surrounding it).

 

Anyway, my personal opinion is for a quick fix to get power 'occasionaly' when you want it, nitrous is a good idea, I mean you can spend thousands to get the equivilent power, and how often do you drive absolutly flat out everywhere?

 

Dont get me wrong, I think spending a lot of $$ on engine mods to get high HP fiigures should be respected, im in the process of getting new turbos and intercoolers etc myself, but, I just wanted to know your thoughts?

 

I'm also purchasing a nitrous kit, of which will be fitted to my car shortly.

p.s Y does everyone call it NOS?, that means nitrous oxide systems, which is an american company that develop a kit! not Nitrous Oxide as in the mod or the gas!

p.s Y does everyone call it NOS?, that means nitrous oxide systems, which is an american company that develop a kit! not Nitrous Oxide as in the mod or the gas!

 

same as why people call vacuum cleaners hoovers i suppose.

as far as nitrous is concerened - i think if its set up properly then it is a very safe mod!! especially nowdays with progressive controllers etc.

 

fake power?? dunno why some people think its fake? cos there twats?? LOL power is power, what does it matter if youve got bigger turbos that allow you to burn more fuel, or a more oxygen rich enviroment in the cyl??

 

the only downside is having to refill it all the time !!

I thought about fitting it to my N/A.

 

What reliability (or other problems) can I expect using it very occasionally d'you reckon?

 

Is the N/A engine / transmission the same as the TT and therefore able to take 280 odd crank bhp yet retain 'standard nissan' reliability?

same as why people call vacuum cleaners hoovers i suppose.

 

Fair point mate lol,

 

And craig, no idea mate, I know nothing about the NA sorz, maybe someone else can help ya on that question.

 

I know people that have had nitrous fitted to all sorts of cars, the general consesus being that as long as the car is in good health :rolleyes: and:

 

A) if you dont run a progressive controller run a 'sensible' shot, say 80bhp on a 3.0ltr is good, but 80bhp jets on a 1.2 nova that only produces 80hp is not good lol. That would be more sensible to run a 20bhp shot max. Just go for a sensible amount for the condition, and size of the engine if your banging it all in, in one go that is. I do know someone who runs 60 jet on a 1.4, it works well, but after days and weeks and months of ragging it, the car is now behaving like a dog, doesnt tick over right, squeeks rattles and he has wrecked one clutch (which is to be expected! I think the car only had 90-100 bhp to start with)

B) if you opt for a progressive controller, then you can double or triple the above figure, but again depending on the engine condition.

 

I dont know the ins and outs of it at all, I havnt even got it fitted, would be best if you like for me to give you me mates number so he can run through, prices, fitting involved and what the best set up would be.

 

Its also worth pointing out that a 60hp jet is likely to give less / more dependant on the engine, it seems from what i've seen at there work shop that normal engines that are N/A give a fair bit less than the jet sugests, whilst performance engines (N/A) will give almost the correct figure. Turbo cars can sometimes give more or less dependant on the set up.

 

Its best to start off I would say with your engine at around 30 (to be on the safe side) and work up probably to about 60-80. But its all up to you matey!

 

Its brill for N/A cars as it gives you a massive boost in torque right to the end of the revs, but dont expect it to be anything like it is in films like F&F etc, you wont be wheel spinning all down the road to 150!!!!!