I know getting the arse out is risky and not what you want in the wet at a roundabout etc. as many have found, but hypothetically speaking, if you DID want to get the back end out 'under control' (???) how do you actually go about it. I am not saying I WOULD, because I think I am far too much of a wet jessie to do it- but I would like to know the 'technical' theory behind it, and to know if it is possible to do it controllably.

Que Tooley :D

hicas really can be ure friend when drifting as it doesnt give the the nasty snap back you usually get and then overcompensate and just end up coming round on ureself.........know ure road very well both wet and dry and dont let the initial slip scare you into letting off the power. drifting in the wet is easier but it makes for better eye candy when its dry especially in a z as most run much wider tyres these days......find ureself a nice big car park and plant your foot on the juice peddle and just get to know where your car lets go its far easier to get slippage if you are already turning

Just build up to it, start with small drifts at first. And relax.... Dont be tense, feel what the car is doing. As you get used to it you can predict whats going to happen.

 

The main thing is to override your brain saying "lift the throttle". This is bad when on opposite lock as the car will grip and pitch the way the front wheels are pointing. Feather the throttle off yes, but not shut it completely.

 

Drifting in the wet only needs low speeds, the grunt of the Z will just spin the wheels for you. In the dry (stock Z, mine) you need a bit of speed round a corner so you can get close to the lateral grip of the tyres, couple this with a few horsepower under acceleration and the tyres cannot cope, hence you will slide/drift.

 

A fave corner by me can be taken @ 55mph in 2nd gear, if i gas it too, the rear slides out, gotta be quick with the opposite lock though, comes round quite fast.

 

Ask Cos about my ar$e out action at the Foaming Jug pub meet a couple of years ago lmao... that was fun. :D :D

 

HTH

 

Rob.

 

Ask Cos about my ar$e out action at the Foaming Jug pub meet a couple of years ago lmao... that was fun. :D :D.

 

You dirty sods! :nono:

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

 

You got the wrong end of the stick buddy.......... honest...

 

You dirty sods! :nono:

Start in the wet - you can do much lower speeds - easiest way is to turn in much too tightly into a corner and wait for the rear end to lose grip, then just steer it through the slide - you should find the whole car drifts nicely. Find a nice wide road leading off a roundabout and practice!

Rob - you promised not to tell! :D

 

Yes, his arse was all over the place.

Hmmm... I think maybe I need some instruction :)

 

so put more gas than is sensible into a corner and flip the steering in the opposite direction when you feel it slip? I need a step by step guide I think or someone to show me how its done in person. Has an NA enough grunt to do it in the dry?

Buy this DVD bud - really!

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000YEDTK/002-4589802-7289615?v=glance

 

It really is good stuff - Tsuchiya doesn't speak English but the subtitles don't really seem to detract from it. You can learn loads just watching the laps - there's a camera on his feet and indicators for the brake and throttle positions.

 

Buy it buy it buy it...

 

Meanwhile (and before anyone says anything, I was not (intentionally) drifting when I stacked the car :mac1: :rofl: )

 

The secret is as dunk says - no finesse required to start a drift, but be subtle with the throttle when coming out of it again, otherwise it suddenly starts going the way it's pointing which is not good!

 

Power is not the only way to do it - so you should be able to do it in an NA. Having said that I'm pretty sure an NA will have the welly to do power-over on slower corners anyway.

 

Disagree with tooley - HICAS cocks up all the slip angles and makes it confusing, so an NA should be a better drift machine... which I believe SMW confirmed in an earlier post. :D

a) Find a large deserted car park on a rainy day

b) Make mental note of any obstructions (eg. large kerbs you forgot were there -CRACK THUMP CRACK THUMP!!!)

c) Don't put your head through the side window when the car snaps back (if you over-correct!)

d) Enjoy

I have a t-junction on the way home from Santa Pod which is always covered in loose gravel where I can get the car sideways when pulling out and carry on up the road, great fun :D

 

Other than that I havent had the confidence to try drifting on the roads, I'd love a big open carpark to try though!