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ecu diag: do with engine off or on ?

ok stupid question, but the ttnet site doesn't say whether I'm supposed to short pins 8 and 9 with the engine off or on, ingnition on or off, etc?

 

anybody ?

 

stu

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    When ignition is on.

     

    Last time i did it i forgot this an was there for ages wondering why it wasnt working!

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    ignition on, engine off. cool.

     

    I've got a 34 and a 13

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    13 = temp sensor

    34 = detonation sensor

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