The Supra that beat the Ferrari in F&TF....could it beat a Ferrari F40/50 in...

 

a. Acceleration ?

 

b. Handling ?

 

ie. are heavily modded jap cars as good or better than Ferraris ?

Originally posted by Nelson MainFella

ie. are heavily modded jap cars as good or better than Ferraris ?

How long's a piece of string?

Originally posted by Dave Marley

How long's a piece of string?

 

What I meant was...Do they have the potential to be better, assuming money is no option for either car, and they stick with their own engines.

 

Maybe it's a question no-one can answer, or maybe we should assume Ferraris are the ultimate car ?

Welli have shit loads of best motoring videos, and they race F50'S / F40'S / F355'S / PORSHE 911 TURBOS ect against modified SUpras / Skylines ect around Suzuka race circuit ect and it makes very interesting viewing, Ferrari have won the best trackcar shoot out since its inception 1993.Even against the Mclaren f1 and pretty much everything Modded skylines and supras have thrown against them.

 

 

But unlimited money on any car? Well if for instance an F40 - is modded to 750-800 bhp (as they do) it will wipe the board against a skyline modded to the same power, simply because its designed to a much higher performance level to begin with.?

The moral of the story is money talks and whoever has the most will always win no matter what they drive.

Remember watching the years highlights on Motors TV other week,think it was GT Series,A black Diablo pissed all over the Ferraris and everything else,on corners the Ferrari would catch up,but on the straights this Diablo was fecking awsome,and one hell of a mean mother,think i have watched it 4 times on there since and i love it,Diablo=masse's of respect!:D

I've always loved turbo cars and more than half of my cars have been turbo charged - but I think that were lulled into a false sense of security by the rush of the turbos, so here goes my theory (and some arguement would be good)

 

Personally in a traffic light shoot out I think that bigger engines win everytime. People go on about 0-60 times. I had a little think about this a while ago and came to the conclusion that they were meaningless at the lights. Here is my exagerated scenario..

 

Two cars that can do 0-60 in 10 seconds sat at the lights, the lights change and off they go, car A does 0-50 in lets say 1 second and trundles up to 60 in the next 9 seconds, car B does 0-50 in 9 seconds and blasts to 60 in the remaining 1 second.

 

So Car A will be travelling at 50 miles an hour for 8 seconds longer than car B and will be way ahead.

 

And before I get flamed about standing quarter times - I know about them. It just seems to me that we are more like the Car B in this scenario (albeit we have a big engine too :D ).

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Rod

its all about torque baby

But you have to ask yourself would you mod a F40? Lets consider that there are very few of them in the world and they will cost you £140,000 for a 10 year old car. Would you start to mess with a legend? I wouldnt. Doing anything unoriginal to it, to me is the worse thing you can do to a true classic car.

 

But Japanese performance cars have loads of potential because corners are cut to keep costs down and drivability up. If you had an F40 you dont care that the clutch is too hard, slow speeds are impossible and the ride is real uncomfortable. But these are the things that will turn you away from in a Nissan or Toyota.

 

I personally think, if you spend thousands on a Z, but the 2 seater hard top to make it lighter, strip it out and up the engine to about 500bhp, I think it will give most Ferraris a run for their money. And lets consider the F40 costs about 8 years of an average wage and the F50 will cost about 12-15 years of an average wage.

 

With The Fast And Furious scene. You are compairing a 355 I think it was which are about 400bhp and quite light, not very, against a 600bhp Supra which after gutting it out wouldnt weigh too much more and in real life that car would have beeten it.

 

Go look at 1/4 mile times of Ferrari

 

F40 11.8 Seconds.

F50 12.1 Seconds.

550 Maranello 12.6 Seconds.

Lamborghini Diablo GT 11.6 Seconds.

 

Now you think when the cheapest car is £140,000 2nd hand, those times are not that impressive. You can spend £20,000 on you 300ZX now and make it faster than all of those.

 

Stuart

Originally posted by SRRAE

But you have to ask yourself would you mod a F40? Lets consider that there are very few of them in the world and they will cost you £140,000 for a 10 year old car. Would you start to mess with a legend? I wouldnt. Doing anything unoriginal to it, to me is the worse thing you can do to a true classic car.

Stuart

 

Ferrari have a larger turbo kit for the F40 from the facctory - 650 bhp.

Hammon motorsport modify them aswell, and of course Michelotto do the wildest conversion, when we were at brands hatch for the Ferrasri day , there were 4 f40's at the show, all were modified beyond 600bhp lol.

Originally posted by Dave Marley

How long's a piece of string?

 

35 meters, mate.

 

HTH - Gio :D

Originally posted by Gio

35 meters, mate.

 

HTH - Gio :D

LMFFAO BWHAHAHAHAH Class :D:D:D

Originally posted by Gio

35 meters, mate.

 

HTH - Gio :D

That's how long it was to start with but I've modified it to reduce mass, so how long is it now? ;)