i know is shouldnt with a baby on the way but im really fancying a big tv, ive had my old sony normal def for 6 years now and with doing the living room out i really fancy a new tv, been in a few shop's now and seen a 51" plasma tv

 

i wasnt really looking for a plasma but apperently for anything bigger than 40" plasma is the way to go, im not really sure though

 

what would you reccomend or has anyone got this tv?

 

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IMHO and that's all this is, get a Samsung LED instead, plasma is too dull, High Def means nothing on a plasma and unless you buy one of the REALLY expensive ones, they die really quickly with things like you've mentioned, plasma burn. We bought a Samsung 46" LED last year and it's awesome, if a little small, the picture is sharp, blue rays are awesome, and it's super slimline and uses less power than a plasma does too. Remember plasma TVs are banned in some countries because of the power usage.

 

oh oh oh AND :D lol :D you can see the LED TV picture from all angles, with a plasma you have to be quite square to it to see the picture properly :D

 

*****cks, im using a 42" plasma from 2001 that accepts a 1080p signal from component and the picture is stunning, a lot of the flac that plasmas received are from when they first came out costing 10k a unit, and businesses stuck them up in there shop displaying static images 24/7

 

Mine is a JVC GD-V4210PCE its a monitor not a TV and when new cost $10k from JVC pro. it has absolutely no screen burn, the color hasn't faded, and the HD signal is absolutely stunning. vibrant colors that are no over powering or false, no grainy image, doesnt pixels on fast moving images and for what is now a 11 year old plasma screen, works absolutely perfect.

 

Biggest misconceptions going are plasmas do not last as long as LCD's, which is incorrect, both units have on average 60,000 hours screen life.

 

That plasmas suffer screen burn, which unless your running the same image on your screen for over 2 months for high hours is not going to happen.

 

That you loose color, as i said mines got the same screen in it since it rolled out of the factory (Phillips panel in JVC GD-V4210PCE) and the color is still awesome.

 

Steams / Groover / Artztogo can even vouch for that as they have all been in my house and seen it running.

 

My neighbor has recent brought a LG 50 inch LED Full HD 3D tv, and i can honestly say i was not impressed with the image quality even on HD, the edges of outlines look fuzzy, which seems to be a reoccurring thing with LCD / LED.

 

Give me a plasma any day of the week.

 

PS, i can view my plasma from any angle and still see a crisp clear image so not sure what you were looking at.

Edited November 26, 201114 yr by vodkashots

*****cks, im using a 42" plasma from 2001 that accepts a 1080p signal from component and the picture is stunning, a lot of the flac that plasmas received are from when they first came out costing 10k a unit, and businesses stuck them up in there shop displaying static images 24/7

 

Mine is a JVC GD-V4210PCE its a monitor not a TV and when new cost $10k from JVC pro. it has absolutely no screen burn, the color hasn't faded, and the HD signal is absolutely stunning. vibrant colors that are no over powering or false, no grainy image, doesnt pixels on fast moving images and for what is now a 11 year old plasma screen, works absolutely perfect.

 

Biggest misconceptions going are plasmas do not last as long as LCD's, which is incorrect, both units have on average 60,000 hours screen life.

 

That plasmas suffer screen burn, which unless your running the same image on your screen for over 2 months for high hours is not going to happen.

 

That you loose color, as i said mines got the same screen in it since it rolled out of the factory (Phillips panel in JVC GD-V4210PCE) and the color is still awesome.

 

Steams / Groover / Artztogo can even vouch for that as they have all been in my house and seen it running.

 

My neighbor has recent brought a LG 50 inch LED Full HD 3D tv, and i can honestly say i was not impressed with the image quality even on HD, the edges of outlines look fuzzy, which seems to be a reoccurring thing with LCD / LED.

 

Give me a plasma any day of the week.

 

PS, i can view my plasma from any angle and still see a crisp clear image so not sure what you were looking at.

 

Since you started your post with "*****cks", I assume it's open season :thumbup:

 

Rose used to say the same about a Relisys monitor she'd had for about 7 years, until we upgraded to some new HDMI LCD ones, which side by side (The only true comparison, not from one room to the next where the lighting and furniture and decoration is COMPLETELY different) showed that the Relisys had lost colour and clarity. Simply put, a lot of this is down to personal preference in the image, please don't make out plasmas are the best thing since sliced bread, because they're just not, neither technology is perfect, they both have their flaws and their areas of excellence. For me personally, Plasmas are hot, power sapping, wastes of fuzzy, blurry space, that just don't warrant the electricity bill. The LED for me personally, is awesome technology, which is bright, accurate, clear, cheaper on the power bill and makes much more sense, BUT is far more expensive.

 

Just so you know Ian, plasmas didn't earn a bad name with me at any point in history, except when I compared a 46" plasma Samsung with a 46" LED Samsung in Currys earlier this year. :D

problem is with comparing in tv's in the shop is that the one they are promoting will always have better connections than those round them

problem is with comparing in tv's in the shop is that the one they are promoting will always have better connections than those round them

 

Very true, the guy was trying to sell me the 52" plasma next to my 46, I still went for the 46" LED which was a good £300 more expensive ;)

Since you started your post with "*****cks", I assume it's open season :thumbup:

 

Rose used to say the same about a Relisys monitor she'd had for about 7 years, until we upgraded to some new HDMI LCD ones, which side by side (The only true comparison, not from one room to the next where the lighting and furniture and decoration is COMPLETELY different) showed that the Relisys had lost colour and clarity. Simply put, a lot of this is down to personal preference in the image, please don't make out plasmas are the best thing since sliced bread, because they're just not, neither technology is perfect, they both have their flaws and their areas of excellence. For me personally, Plasmas are hot, power sapping, wastes of fuzzy, blurry space, that just don't warrant the electricity bill. The LED for me personally, is awesome technology, which is bright, accurate, clear, cheaper on the power bill and makes much more sense, BUT is far more expensive.

 

Just so you know Ian, plasmas didn't earn a bad name with me at any point in history, except when I compared a 46" plasma Samsung with a 46" LED Samsung in Currys earlier this year. :D

 

Go for a well known brand then, im not saying plasmas are the best thing since sliced bread, but they are definatly better than a LCD / LED.

 

Every LCD / LED ive looked at just doesnt hold the quality once it gets above 37 inch, my be my eyes are just too good or i notice things more, but when i look at the edges of people when watching LCD / LED's they just seem to have like a strange pixel bleed with the surrounding area, (hard to explain) ive never seen the same on a plasma. blacks on a plasma are deeper than a LCD, they handle fast moving images, like someone running through the rain better than LCD / LED that tend to show the larger pixels (like small pattern of squares that disctract from the image).

 

LCD / LED seem to handle the smaller size screens a lot better. though im yet to see a small plasma lol (only because i dont tend to go for small screens)

 

My plasma handles Sky HD just fine on the older box with the componant connections which out puts just as good a signal as HDMI anyway.

what are plasmas like with ps3's and gaming

Took a few pic's of the 51" in the playroom from different angles my camera is crap but it does show you get a good picture from any angle. As for weight they are not to heavy as tv's go, we have another mounted on the wall in the kitchen which can be pulled out and swivelled up or down,

 

I'll say fair enough, except for of course you saying that plasmas are definitely better than LED, cos they're not! lol :D

 

Rose is a graphic designer by trade and I've seen her pick out a pixel mistake in a website, on a 15" laptop that's 7 years old, from 4 meters away and yes I do mean a single pixel mistake (i.e. the border is just a pixel out), everyone else thinks it's absolutely spot on, Rose says it's not, on further investigation of the code to see the pixel settings, she's absolutely spot on. Bearing this in mind, I trust her judgement a lot when it comes to imagery, if she says plasmas are crap compared, I believe her, besides that I see it myself. When you say LEDs don't keep up with moving images and stuff I really really don't get it, because I see plasmas ghost CONSTANTLY, but my LED is sharp and spot on ALL the time. :confused:

what are plasmas like with ps3's and gaming

 

used my 42" as a PC monitor for over 2 years matey, awesome is all im going to say.

 

Just one word of warning though, i went from a 32" screen to a 42" and thought it was massive, then you get used to the size, so i upgraded to a Projector with 82" screen and thought that was absolutely Huge

 

ive now upgraded my projector again to a Optima HD65, with a 108" screen and now im used to that and think its small lol

cheers gary, thanks for the pics, and i lol'd at seeing my avatar in your pic lol

I'll say fair enough, except for of course you saying that plasmas are definitely better than LED, cos they're not! lol :D

 

Rose is a graphic designer by trade and I've seen her pick out a pixel mistake in a website, on a 15" laptop that's 7 years old, from 4 meters away and yes I do mean a single pixel mistake (i.e. the border is just a pixel out), everyone else thinks it's absolutely spot on, Rose says it's not, on further investigation of the code to see the pixel settings, she's absolutely spot on. Bearing this in mind, I trust her judgement a lot when it comes to imagery, if she says plasmas are crap compared, I believe her, besides that I see it myself. When you say LEDs don't keep up with moving images and stuff I really really don't get it, because I see plasmas ghost CONSTANTLY, but my LED is sharp and spot on ALL the time. :confused:

 

think your getting LCD and plasma mixed up, ive never seen ghosting on a plasma and ive worked fixing them for 7 years, along side LCD's on the side for people, ive had a lot more LCD's in for failed Y-sus boards, screens, power supplies, than ive had plasmas, the ghosting ive seen is predominantly LCD's, not LED's and the older ones at that, the newer ones do not ghost any more, but they do have pixal break up with the squares ive mentioned on images displaying flames and rain.

 

The plasmas ive had in tend to be more power supply orientated problem, a few with y-sus board problems, but nothing compared to LCD's, i am however yet to have a LED screen in for repair.

cheers gary, thanks for the pics, and i lol'd at seeing my avatar in your pic lol

 

You have good eyesight to see that mate:biggrin:

think your getting LCD and plasma mixed up, ive never seen ghosting on a plasma and ive worked fixing them for 7 years, along side LCD's on the side for people, ive had a lot more LCD's in for failed Y-sus boards, screens, power supplies, than ive had plasmas, the ghosting ive seen is predominantly LCD's, not LED's and the older ones at that, the newer ones do not ghost any more, but they do have pixal break up with the squares ive mentioned on images displaying flames and rain.

 

The plasmas ive had in tend to be more power supply orientated problem, a few with y-sus board problems, but nothing compared to LCD's, i am however yet to have a LED screen in for repair.

 

I've never once seen an LCD or an LED screen ghost, EVER and I've been an IT engineer for a LONG time, working with more monitors than you've probably ever seen in your life (Not meant as an offence I genuinely have dealt with hundreds of thousands of computers), that goes for TVs and any LCD display in general on ANY electrical device. Leaving opinions aside, I took some photos like Gary did, mine are in pitch black darkness, so there is some slight grainyness from my camera, but you can certainly see, there is NO fuzziness whatsoever in the TV Image.

 

used my 42" as a PC monitor for over 2 years matey, awesome is all im going to say.

 

Just one word of warning though, i went from a 32" screen to a 42" and thought it was massive, then you get used to the size, so i upgraded to a Projector with 82" screen and thought that was absolutely Huge

 

ive now upgraded my projector again to a Optima HD65, with a 108" screen and now im used to that and think its small lol

 

 

42" monitor - my god, did you have a £3,000 Wilcat graphics card in your PC to manage the resolution required to make that crystal perfect then?... because that's probably what it would take to achieve the clarity we are talking about here :)

 

I would never personally call a projector an upgrade (unless it's just about how much money can be spent with some on the market lol.) The older RGB ones are a bit blurry, and digital is far better, however 720 at 82" would still degrade the image and cause pixellation. I'd be fiddling with the focus till the day I die! :)

 

All this is probably more down to just what you are used to, and relative to what you've personally experienced. I'm not saying the Plasmas, LCD's or projectors are no good, they're ok in their own right but since this has turned into a mass critique... there's my 2p :D

Ok I put the flash on to remove some of the grainyness from the camera image, it's still not perfect because the lights in our living room are very yellow :( BUT this image you can see EVERY stray hair on the guys head individually

 

Someone raised a good point I forgot to mention about that blacks are hard to beat on a plasma, they tend to have a much higher contrast ratio and less light seepage. Lots of LCD's struggle in the dark and the blacks are more grey, can't comment on LED though haven't owned one.

Took a few pic's of the 51" in the playroom from different angles my camera is crap but it does show you get a good picture from any angle. As for weight they are not to heavy as tv's go, we have another mounted on the wall in the kitchen which can be pulled out and swivelled up or down,

 

 

Samsung plasma FTW lol :)

StellaZ just buy a Pioneer Kuro and you will immediately be superior to anything that has been mentioned in this thread so far, although they are no longer made you may find one or two instock somewhere.

 

Alternatively I remember hearing that some Panasonic TVs have the Pioneer tech on board so my bet would be on one of them over anything else mentioned so far. The picture blows everything else away.

Edited November 26, 201114 yr by Sir Charles