Hi, does anyone know when the new SORN rules kick in? Basically if your insurance is canceled or runs out before the tax, then you have to SORN the vehicle. I want to temporarily insure, MOT and tax a car to sell it. I'm hoping to do this before the new rules kick in or else I'll have to SORN it before I sell. I don't want to keep insuring something I'm getting rid of, yet I also don't want to sell it without a tax disc either! Stupid rules if you ask me, because it won't stop people using cloned plates.

 

Cheers,

Dave

looks like I'm shafted:-

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2011/19/article/2/made

 

So when I SORN it and get a partial tax refund, the next owner will have to tax it from the beginning of the same month, so the Government gets 2 months' duty from EVERY car changing hands in this shitehole of a country. Yet more legal theft to bail us out of something we didn't cause.

ten years ago i may of been shocked at news like this, these days it wouldent surprise me if they tax'ed fresh air.

what do you think the new road tax is based on ?? Co2 emissions......ie taxing fresh air ....

 

they will be taxing sex next

Not read the legislation, but not sure that this is the case??

 

I think you can drive a car without tax and the offence would be a civil one, not a criminal one. i.e. if you drive without an MOT then you are uninsured, hence a criminal offence. If you drive without Tax and are caught, then the offence is civil, and your fined for non payment of Duty.

 

If you tax it then you'll only get a refund on the unused portion i.e. 5 months. so if you tax it today, even if you SORN it next week, you'll get nothing back for this month!

 

Why would you tax it to sell it if you're going to to get a refund? If i were you i'd just add £100 for the tax and negotiate with any new buyer?

Not read the legislation, but not sure that this is the case??

 

I think you can drive a car without tax and the offence would be a civil one, not a criminal one. i.e. if you drive without an MOT then you are uninsured, hence a criminal offence. If you drive without Tax and are caught, then the offence is civil, and your fined for non payment of Duty.

 

If you tax it then you'll only get a refund on the unused portion i.e. 5 months. so if you tax it today, even if you SORN it next week, you'll get nothing back for this month!

 

Why would you tax it to sell it if you're going to to get a refund? If i were you i'd just add £100 for the tax and negotiate with any new buyer?

 

We were talking about this in work and came to the same conclusion as you. These days, people can insure and tax a car using their mobile phones, so it shouldn't really present a problem. It always used to put me off when someone had cashed in the tax and I had to risk driving a car back with just insurance and MOT. North Wales Police would nick you even if you'd just bought it and all the post offices had closed for the day!

 

Cheers,

Dave

If I have insurance but no MOT or tax, am I insured to drive to the MOT test station?

Is there a limit on how far you can drive? I'm hoping to drive to Zedworld from Portsmouth.

If I have insurance but no MOT or tax, am I insured to drive to the MOT test station?

Is there a limit on how far you can drive? I'm hoping to drive to Zedworld from Portsmouth.

 

Yes you can, but it MUST be booked in before and you can only take the quickest route to get there.

Taken from the goverment website

 

Driving an untaxed vehicle to an MOT test

You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle.

 

This is also for vehicles being driven to and from a pre-arranged test at a Vehicle Inspection Check (VIC) test station, an approved weight testing station and reduced pollution test.

 

No mention of distance you can or cant travel

thanks very much takemetothepub,

 

I just got fully comp insurance from fluxdirect for £470.

 

26yo, 5yNCB, SP30. Could be too good to be true!

Taken from the goverment website

 

Driving an untaxed vehicle to an MOT test

You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle.

 

This is also for vehicles being driven to and from a pre-arranged test at a Vehicle Inspection Check (VIC) test station, an approved weight testing station and reduced pollution test.

 

No mention of distance you can or cant travel

 

Agree....Just make sure it's definately booked into the MOT Station and not just going to Zedworld for work prior! (I 'm not sure Zedworld do the MOT but another garage?) ...If you're plate is viewed by the autopnc in a police vehicle you will be pulled ;=)

Agree....Just make sure it's definately booked into the MOT Station and not just going to Zedworld for work prior! (I 'm not sure Zedworld do the MOT but another garage?) ...If you're plate is viewed by the autopnc in a police vehicle you will be pulled ;=)

 

You can also drive to a from somewhere to get work done to pass the MOT.

Agree....Just make sure it's definately booked into the MOT Station and not just going to Zedworld for work prior! (I 'm not sure Zedworld do the MOT but another garage?) ...If you're plate is viewed by the autopnc in a police vehicle you will be pulled ;=)

 

Good point!

 

All done now, should be back on the road in a week!!! Looking forward to it!

 

Thanks again tmettp

Cheers guys. Got the MOT done today. I just insured it for 24 hours and it only cost 9 quid.