Ok. i have been looking at a new 42-50" tv, got up to £800.

Trouble is, one set looks great with plasma, then another looks better in lcd, or led form.

I'm confused :wack: Whats should i be getting, or looking out for?

Ok. i have been looking at a new 42-50" tv, got up to £800.

Trouble is, one set looks great with plasma, then another looks better in lcd, or led form.

I'm confused :wack: Whats should i be getting, or looking out for?

 

When I was looking, I read all the forums, reviews etc etc & got so confused with all the conflicting info that I just went into the shop and bought one! Ended up with a 42" LG plasma - looks great to my eyes, HD is brilliant, and any slight screen burn after using a console goes after a power down... got it from Richer Sounds for 700-odd, and that includes a 5 year warranty (10% on top of purchase price).

 

Rich

I wouldn't go for plasma because of the screen burn. It only gets worse as the TV gets older. Friend has 60inch jobby, cost just shy of 6k and after 2years the quality has deteriorated terribly! Pay that little bit more for a LCD or LED and you won't have any problems as the set ages.IMHO DYOR. I read a few reviews and wound up with a Sony Bravia, no problems upto now *touch wood*

I bought a philips 42" HD plasma about 4 years ago when they were £1200, and had been reduced from £1900!!! It is still brilliant now and better than most lcd`s

 

But my mate who sits in front of a computer at work 8hrs, look`s at reviews and prices all day, bought himself a Panasonic viera 32" LCD as he thought it was the best on the market for quality and price, he would now consider buying a plasma as he say`s the colours are more vivid and brighter on Plasma`s.

 

So personally i would go Plasma as the battle for format is still strong, and i reckon will never get won.

 

Dont forget LED tv is just coming onto the market too, but probably just hype!!

 

Get the best tv you can afford, plasma 1080p true hd

 

Its true about screen burn, but normally happens when gaming or pausing the tv for ages,I`ve never had a problem though

 

DaZ.

im after a hd tv after chrimbo, will prob go sony led or lcd, deffo sony as my current tv is a sony and its great (KD28DL11U)

Owners of plasma televisions, who like to secretly watch hours of porn without telling their partner, have been warned that the station logo can burn a permanent imprint on to the screen.

 

A spokesman for Songsing Technology told this webpaper:

 

"We would like to warn secret porn watchers that viewing any more than 6 hours of porn a night could burn the logo of the station you are watching onto the plasma screen, thus making public a secret porn habit."

 

Harry Rampton of Trailer Park, Baton Rouge told this website:

 

"I am a secret subscriber of Hump TV and imagine my surprise when Joileene asked why the logo for Hump TV had been burned on the top left corner of the screen. I had to quickly think up an excuse. But I couldn't do that so I was thrown out. I had to sleep with the dogs that night."

 

 

Hump TV logo which allegedly mysteriously appeared in Baton Rouge last week

 

Experts advise the changing of channels at least every two hours or to adjust the contrast on the set.

 

The owners of Tits and Ass TV, a subsidiary of Fox News, have said they are going to change the on-screen logo to TaATV to help out their secret subscribers.

 

In other internet news: An on-screen porn logo eraser currently being advertised on Ebay does not work. It is just a re-marketing of typewriter correction fluid for a television screen.

go for a LCD sony bravia-2 you will get vivid colours + LCD is better in more ways eg: plasma will be a little better picture if your picky but thats where the pro's stop!!

 

lcd on the other hand has a matt screen(dont get one with a glasscover) this prevents reflection so you have no worries if your tv is positioned opposite a window!

 

lcd runs alot cooler than plasma so components last longer

 

no screen burn with lcd

 

lcd tv's are lighter in weight so easier to move around & mount on the wall,

 

your lcd will last alot longer than a plasma with no deteriation in quality!

 

& in the future lcd can get as big as they want but plasma will stop as the glass gets too heavy & expensive when they go up in size!

& you can tell for yourself its better cos it dearer!! if plasma was better why are the so cheap?????

go for a LCD sony bravia-2 you will get vivid colours + LCD is better in more ways eg: plasma will be a little better picture if your picky but thats where the pro's stop!!

 

lcd on the other hand has a matt screen(dont get one with a glasscover) this prevents reflection so you have no worries if your tv is positioned opposite a window!

 

lcd runs alot cooler than plasma so components last longer

 

no screen burn with lcd

 

lcd tv's are lighter in weight so easier to move around & mount on the wall,

 

your lcd will last alot longer than a plasma with no deteriation in quality!

 

& in the future lcd can get as big as they want but plasma will stop as the glass gets too heavy & expensive when they go up in size!

& you can tell for yourself its better cos it dearer!! if plasma was better why are the so cheap?????

 

 

I actually like the glass in front of the screen, it gives depth to the tv, and cleans really easy, I have never got a reflection where mine is positioned!

 

DaZ ;)

I actually like the glass in front of the screen, it gives depth to the tv, and cleans really easy, I have never got a reflection where mine is positioned!

 

DaZ ;)

trust me if u have it opposite a window with the light coming in its a nightmare ..my mate didnt listen to me & he got plasma now has do draw the curtains to watch it in the day! & the center ceiling light reflects off it in the evening ...not good..

ps the things i stated were not personal thoughts they were proven facts, i done alot of home work on them before i got my sony bravia! & being an electrician i had installed quite a few different types over the years!

Just to let you know you get a free 5 year warranty if you're a member of Costco. If you're not, I'll happily get you in to have a look at what they have :)

Thanks guys. thats cleared that up :rofl:

I've read loads of reviews and guides, seems plasma is better for moving images, as lcd is slower to react......but not always.. :headvswal

What do you watch? the sales guy said. 'er films, dr.who, music channels + she has to watch corrie' That didnt help.lol.

Then look at all the duff plasmas that get dropped, or hit + crack the screen for sale on ebay + all the lcd duffers that dont have a picture.Ho hum.

 

Just to let you know you get a free 5 year warranty if you're a member of Costco. If you're not, I'll happily get you in to have a look at what they have :)

Ok, great.Whats costco? This thread could spawn lots of others.

ps the things i stated were not personal thoughts they were proven facts, i done alot of home work on them before i got my sony bravia! & being an electrician i had installed quite a few different types over the years!

 

 

Point taken mate,

 

DaZ ;)

Edited November 16, 200916 yr by daZvert
Edited for sounding like a cock

ya just showing off now daz lol

ya just showing off now daz lol

 

 

I was just readin my reply back,and it now look`s like i am a boastin TW*T, but i work hard and like my gadgets, and spend quite a bit of time researching gadgety stuff and IMO plasma is the best, apart from my True HD300" projector of course :nelson:

 

Daz :D

 

You know what though, i am pissed off today!! i have waited in all day for the cavity wall guys to fill the cavity with fluff and no fooker has turned up and no phone calls, i have wasted a day off (self employed) so no money, and spent all day on the computer :headvswal

I was just readin my reply back,and it now look`s like i am a boastin TW*T, but i work hard and like my gadgets, and spend quite a bit of time researching gadgety stuff and IMO plasma is the best, apart from my True HD300" projector of course :nelson:

 

Daz :D

 

You know what though, i am pissed off today!! i have waited in all day for the cavity wall guys to fill the cavity with fluff and no fooker has turned up and no phone calls, i have wasted a day off (self employed) so no money, and spent all day on the computer :headvswal

 

could of been worse! what would u have done if u had no computer ? lol;)

i was funning mate lol

Costcos is like Makros and is in Watford (as well as others around the country). It's a membership type cash & carry type place.

 

If you want to pop in there let me know.

 

Vijay

If your not watching massive amounts of HD stuff then I find plasma's better for normal tv. i have a 37" panasonic plasma hooked upto my ps3 in my bedroom 6ft which is the ideal viewing for this res and its fantastic, much better than the 32" panasonic LCD we have downstairs. Blacks are far better and overall contrast seems higher.

I fix LCD and plasma screens on the side, and i can tell you now, the difference in quality in picture between the two is astonishing when put side by side.

 

9/10 times you get some kind of screen fuzz around the outside edges of sharp lines on a large LCD, where as this doesnt happen on a plasma. LCD screen life is just the same as a plasma, (around 60k hours) plasma gas does not deteriorate as everyone thinks, i have a 42" JVC plasma monitor in the living room from 2001 and the picture is just as sharp as when it was brand spankers back in the in July of 2001 (and no screen burn)

 

Also the plasma doesnt suffer pixelization of the screen when fast moving images are on them.

 

If going for a small flat screen TV go for a LCD, it can be crisper at lower screen sizes, soon as you hit anything above 28" id be opting for a plasma screen, the blacks are black. the picture quality is far superior (just check out any LCD of the same size next to a plasma it is clearly visible even on today's screens)

 

As for screen burn, this is tested but might vary slightly depending on screen make, but took well over 4 weeks of constant use of the same image to show signs of screen burn. this was on NEC 42" plasma screen from 2002 as well.

 

So for short bursts of gaming, unless your going to be glued to the screen, screen burn shouldn't be a problem.

agree with above, small upto 28" lcd, over that plasma. i have had both and fast gaming and sports really got to me on my lcd with the blur thing.

If going for a small flat screen TV go for a LCD, it can be crisper at lower screen sizes, soon as you hit anything above 28" id be opting for a plasma screen, the blacks are black. the picture quality is far superior (just check out any LCD of the same size next to a plasma it is clearly visible even on today's screens)

 

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I think thats the definitive answer :duffer: , thanks guys.

I work for Sky and see a lot of TVs.

 

I hate philips and not keen on sonys. Seen quite a few good LGs

 

Samsung and Panisonic always look good.

 

Most of the problems are that people dont set them up right or have a 50" one in the shoe box of a room. Its amazing just spending 5 min setting them up can do.

 

Next year the price is going to drop on them as there is going to be a big push of the next gen flat screens LED

 

Seen a few LEDs running and I so want one but want my zed on the road more.

philips i have found to be unreliable from family that have had it. i have found sony so unreliable, had too many things brake its a joke now moved to panasonic 4-5 years ago and never looked back. led is not the future oled is led is just a different way to light up the lcd instead of tubes and IMO what happens when one or more led goes cause knowing samsung and what i have heard they wont give a f**k

Edited November 17, 200916 yr by dipone

LED screens are set to be the next big consumer con. Unless you know what sort of LED backlighting you're buying there's no point paying a premium for it. At the moment there are 3 sorts of LED backlighting technologies:

 

1. LED backlighting replacing the standard CCFL tubes. This is the sort of backlighting that you're seeing on Apple notebooks and displays and other high end notebooks. Basically it just replaced the traditional CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lights) with an array of LED's. The pro's are instant switch on of the screen, wider dimming range, lower power consumption and better colour reproduction. Con's are no improvement in contrast ratios which is the bane of LCD's.

 

2. LED edge dimming. In order to make LCD's thinner it's possible to put arrays of LED's around the edge of the screen and send the light to the back via light pipes. This makes for an incredibly thin screen but early models are suffering from uneven light distribution so this is one to watch for now.

 

3 LED backlighting with local dimming. This is the one that's going to finally close the gap between LCD's and Plasma's. Until now LCD's couldn't match Plasmas for contrast ratio (Contrast ratio is the difference between the brightest and the dimmest pixels the TV can show).

Plasma's had much superior contrast ratio cause when they need to show something as black they can switch off all the lighting to the pixel so it appears as black as the screen. When LCD's need to show something as black they go as opaque as they can, but the backlight stays on and shines through the screen so it show as dark grey.

The new sets with local dimming have the ability to switch off the backlighting to specific areas of the screen so when the set needs to show black on a certain part of screen it can shut off the backlighting and then that part of the screen is totally black. That is the essence of the fancy new "LED" technology that everyone is talking about. Problem with this setup is that you've only got a finite amount of LED's for backlighting purposes and's it's nowhere near as many pixels as the TV's got so if you need an area to show black next to something bright you end up with a muddy compromise of semi light/dark areas with lots of "halos" around the bright things (bad).

Most manufacturers won't discuss how many LED's are used for their local dimming setups but one came clean recently with a figure of around 1500 LED's. Sounds a lot but there are about 2,000,000 pixels on a high def TV so that means 1 LED per 1300 pixels.

 

The reason i called LED's a big consumer con earlier is cause they're being marketed as a new technology when they're actually LCD's with LED backlighting (Samsung have already been slapped down by the Advertising Standard Authority for this). Don't get it confused with OLED (Organic LED) which is a few years off yet.

 

If you're thinking of upgrading to LED (LCD with LED local dimming) then try and find out the amount of LED's used in the backlighting or it's not worth it and don't be confused by manufacturers selling TV's with LED backlighting. If it's not locally dimmed then it's not worth any more than a regular LCD.

 

Dave

LED screens are set to be the next big consumer con. Unless you know what sort of LED backlighting you're buying there's no point paying a premium for it. At the moment there are 3 sorts of LED backlighting technologies:

 

1. LED backlighting replacing the standard CCFL tubes. This is the sort of backlighting that you're seeing on Apple notebooks and displays and other high end notebooks. Basically it just replaced the traditional CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lights) with an array of LED's. The pro's are instant switch on of the screen, wider dimming range, lower power consumption and better colour reproduction. Con's are no improvement in contrast ratios which is the bane of LCD's.

 

2. LED edge dimming. In order to make LCD's thinner it's possible to put arrays of LED's around the edge of the screen and send the light to the back via light pipes. This makes for an incredibly thin screen but early models are suffering from uneven light distribution so this is one to watch for now.

 

3 LED backlighting with local dimming. This is the one that's going to finally close the gap between LCD's and Plasma's. Until now LCD's couldn't match Plasmas for contrast ratio (Contrast ratio is the difference between the brightest and the dimmest pixels the TV can show).

Plasma's had much superior contrast ratio cause when they need to show something as black they can switch off all the lighting to the pixel so it appears as black as the screen. When LCD's need to show something as black they go as opaque as they can, but the backlight stays on and shines through the screen so it show as dark grey.

The new sets with local dimming have the ability to switch off the backlighting to specific areas of the screen so when the set needs to show black on a certain part of screen it can shut off the backlighting and then that part of the screen is totally black. That is the essence of the fancy new "LED" technology that everyone is talking about. Problem with this setup is that you've only got a finite amount of LED's for backlighting purposes and's it's nowhere near as many pixels as the TV's got so if you need an area to show black next to something bright you end up with a muddy compromise of semi light/dark areas with lots of "halos" around the bright things (bad).

Most manufacturers won't discuss how many LED's are used for their local dimming setups but one came clean recently with a figure of around 1500 LED's. Sounds a lot but there are about 2,000,000 pixels on a high def TV so that means 1 LED per 1300 pixels.

 

The reason i called LED's a big consumer con earlier is cause they're being marketed as a new technology when they're actually LCD's with LED backlighting (Samsung have already been slapped down by the Advertising Standard Authority for this). Don't get it confused with OLED (Organic LED) which is a few years off yet.

 

If you're thinking of upgrading to LED (LCD with LED local dimming) then try and find out the amount of LED's used in the backlighting or it's not worth it and don't be confused by manufacturers selling TV's with LED backlighting. If it's not locally dimmed then it's not worth any more than a regular LCD.

 

Dave

 

 

:bow::bow: What would you buy/own Dave?