I am appalled and disgusted by the Government's response to the recent disclosures about deaths in the 'Health' Service from C.difficile.

 

I'm sure you must have recently heard or read about the case of the three hospitals run by the Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells NHS Trust, which had 1,176 patients catching this superbug over two-and-a-half years causing the death of 90 of them.

 

What is the Governments response? A new target for the NHS to reduce the incidence of C.difficile by 40% by 2011!!!

 

The Government seem to find it acceptable that, provided the deaths decrease by 40% over the next four years, this would be an acceptable situation.

 

WELL THIS IS BLOODY WELL NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME!

 

I find their response extremely disgusting. This virulent superbug is spreading due to the filthy conditions in many of our hospitals! If all our hospitals were cleaned properly, this bug could be irradicated in no time at all, along with the multitude of other bugs that threaten to kill us when we submit ourselves to the 'care' of our hospitals.

 

The only response we seem to get from government when situations such as these are uncovered is "Well, we've increased the amount we spend in this area by ginormous amounts since we came into power" and "We have provided new targets to ensure the situation improves".

 

The government's reaction should be to send an army of cleaners into all our hospitals TOMORROW with the appropriate cleaning equipment in order to sanitise every inch of every ward once and for all, and then provide sufficient funds to ensure this level of cleanliness will be permanently maintained.

 

I would be interested in your views on this subject, particularly if you work within the NHS or have experience of the filth in our hospitals.

 

Dave

i agree dave but when have the government ever tried to actually do something that is beneficial for the people of this country, they are there for one thing only to line there own pockets its been true for every government since it began!

bring back in house cleaners and matrons as opposed to the private externals cleaning the hospitals as would seem to be common practice in todays health services.

this makes my bile boil!!!! :mac1: :mac1:

target-setting is the most childish and irresponsible form of government imaginable. you sit there on your fat backside and say "i want this to increase by x% in y years" and not only expect some inexperienced lackey to somehow deliver it, but also expect that people think you are somehow 'taking action'!?!?.

"well we're looking into it, coming up with some new targets and are reviewing our current procedures and putting new procedures in place" i hear this all the time now whenever something goes wrong!

i remember someone (probably that stupid clown of an ex-p.m.) saying "we're aiming to reduce crime by 10% in 3 years". why not aim to reduce crime by 75% in 3 years?? or even better, instead of setting targets, let the coppers/nurses/cleaners get on with THEIR F*&£$NG JOB!!!

My father in law was very ill in Hospital and he got MRSA (which I believe is also in the news) and shortly after he died. They said he died from heart failure? There was nothing wrong with he's heart before he went in. Nothing shocks me from this corupt government anymore :confused:

the irony is that the technology and scientific, medical knowlegde we have in the world today, we can cure what was before, horrific, fatal diseases, however lives are lost due to something as ridiculous as inadequate standards within our hospitals.

 

Surely some individual is responsible for the demise of the level care and attention to detail that our health service once prided itself on.

The big quiestion I have is, did the cleaning contract get taken away from the firm that is doing the cleaning?

 

I doubt it, there seems to be no one in charge with the balls to sort it out and take the contracts off these companies. They just seem to want the cheapest. This is where the problem lies in my opinion. I'm not sure it would improve if the cleaning was done in house either as they would probably employ the same people anyway.

 

This time last year my mumwas in the james pagent hospital in great yarmouth. I couldn't have faulted the cleanliness of the ward she was in, there always seemed to be cleaners about. About a month after her death there was a big thing in the paper about how dirty it was and that several people had died from some gastric bug. It just goes to show that it might not only be the cleaning that needs a revamp. I dread to think how much of that hand gel they get through.

 

Darrell

After my 7th or 8th surgery (can't remember exactly which...which I know sounds bizarre) which didn't go to plan I ended up in hospital for 3 months during which time I contracted MRSA which manifested itself in my wound site (it stopped healing and essentially started disintegrating into mush). I went from being unwell but healing to unwell and deteriorating very quickly and I have to say it scared the living hell out of me. Thankfully I was one of the lucky ones that managed to fight it off but I always think how things could've turned out very differently as I was already severely underweight, weak, anaemic, with a very low immune system (kept suppressed on purpose with medication) and already on several courses of anti-biotics. Having been in and out of hospitals all my life I've seen first hand how poorly they are kept. The cleaning staff are, quite often, a joke. While I was barriered they used to swan in and out without masks, gloves or disinfecting their hands then move right on to the next bed. Even now, it's hardly any different. TBH, I'm suprised the situation isn't worse than it's reported to be. I should say that the quality of the cleaning service is only one aspect that needs addressing. The care system doesn't just need a massive injection of money but a complete overhaul and re-evaluation of the current standards otherwise it's only going to get much, much worse :(

theres a lot worse that the government do, this is just more visable. sad thing is I dont realy think it will matter who's in power a both have to do the job without putting up our taxes. and lets be honest no one is going to do the job without the right resorces, and that takes more money than we have. Its just simple economics, you can only rob peter to pay paul so many times.

It's not lack of money that's causing the problems, £billions have been injected into the health service in recent years. It's the misuse of this money and where the money goes that is the problem.

 

Too many overpaid administrators, doctors (hospital and GP's) and consultants salaries inflated by enormous amounts whilst nursing staff numbers per patient are reduced. Jobs are sub-contracted out to private enterprise who employ the minimum number of employees and pay them peanuts in order to maximise their profits, whilst giving out backhanders to ensure they keep their contracts.

 

IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL to see that patients are being killed off by the NHS who are supposed to be taking care of our health. What the hell can we do about it? That's the real problem.

I was reading the other day that some hospitals are employing self contract nurses and paying them £1000 a day, yes I know but thats what I read.

 

Now if they were to pay half that a week to nurses then less would go to the private sector and less would be imported from third world countries with lower standards than ourselves.

 

Bring back Matron with her rod of iron, shame people into doing the job right, don't let the cheapest slack off and let nurses do thier job.

 

This rable of power won an election on the base of improveing the NHS, well back in 1994 I waited 3 months to go into hospital and have an op, not life threatening just a simple unessecary op that would make me more comfortable, but I was sorted out non the less. Three years ago I waited 2 years for a smaller op that was done in no time in out patients.

 

I had to wait 12 months to see a furkin doc

 

Vote ****s out, they waist your money

One of my nieces is a graduate nurse and she wouldn't work directly for the NHS because of the poor salaries. She worked for them through an agency and was paid considerably more than her NHS colleagues even though her agency was obviously also making a profit. She now works in the States where the conditions are better for both patients and nurses.

 

It appears that, like our prisons, the NHS is being privatised through the back door with the result that the taxpayer is paying more for lower standards, even to the extent that patients are dying due to lack of care.

 

What the hell are things coming to in this country?

I'm all for privatisation it gives the consumer the choice, but you can not privatise the NHS, it would just cause too much of a mess.