http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20070607/tuk-mystery-call-hope-in-madeleine-hunt-6323e80.html

 

 

Fingers crossed for the McCanns.

thing is even if I wasnt told... you can never hid the truth! It would of come out somehow!!!

 

You're 100% right though!

 

yep - some right fooking freaks in the world... very sad bringing up childen in this day and age!

eddie needham (bens grandfather) is a very good freind of mine. it was a very traumatising time even for close freinds. i actually had ben and his grandparents in my car 2 days before they moved abroad. they are originally from sheffield, moved to lincolnshire, then to greece, then back to sheffield where they still are today. theres a few members of the close family who have had breakdowns over it, on more than one occation for some. i know they will never give up searching.

 

absolutly terrible for the family, especially with recent events it must of brought all the pain and memories back for them. I just dont understand why people can do things like this to other people, as a species we have a bloody lot to answer for

thing is even if I wasnt told... you can never hid the truth! It would of come out somehow!!!

 

You're 100% right though!

 

yep - some right fooking freaks in the world... very sad bringing up childen in this day and age!

 

i think a lot of kids ask there parents if the are adopted even if their not, i did and my kids asked me i think its a thing kids do. But if you keep telling a child they arnt they will believe it, brainwashing, unless for any medical reasons, then it can be complicated, so yes the truth would come out eventually

I dont know, as you get older and maybe Athene can answer this, do you not notice a lack of similarities bin yourself from your adoptive parents.

 

For instance i know i am my fathers daughter, we share the same awful temper, bad moods and sometimes just like to be an arse just for the sake of it.

 

Im like my mother aswell, i will say something and stop mid track and think "bloody hell sarah you sound like your mother"

 

Or would you not notice a lack of similarities till the truth was out?

well... funny thing is there are some people who knew our family... but didnt know i was adopted and as I grew up the stoopid freaks used to say I looked so much like my mother....

 

used to piss the shite out of me as you can imagine... coz i had a grudge on my shoulders with my real mom for giving me up and I so wanted to be with her and know where i came from..

 

BUT - I have to admit I am very much like my adoptive mother! the things I do, say act etc... I guess you just pick things up!

there are things in this thread that are making it very difficult for me to reply to & read, but heres my situation. i have a daughter to another woman, not my wife, who was adopted when she was 7 and now 17. i dont want to go into too much detail on a public forum but to cut it short. she was with her mother till an incident happened with her newborn to someone else. the social services got involved and ended up removing the kids from her and put them in a foster home. i went through court and got custody of her after a very long battle. she moved in with me, the wife and my other 2 daughters. the social services used to pick her up once a week and take her to a foster home where her mother visited her, under supervision. when she returned home she was in a right state, this happened for weeks and weeks. i thought it was just the way she was and a bit hypo from sweets ect. anyway, one day she came home from her mother, she pooed on the floor in the bedroom, wiped it all over the place, i went mad and smacked her, some of you do gooders may no agree with that, but that was the way us older ones were brought up & it never did us any harm. carrying on, i left a slight hand mark on her bum. i then rang the social services person who picked her up every week and told him what had happened. i was upfront and honest about it. he came round immediately and all hell broke loose. he took her straight to the hospital for examination with me present. afterwards he said she was now removed from my care and took her back to the foster home. eventually after a few weeks of talks, the doctors involved, the nspcc was on my side and wanted me to take her back. i said i would have her back, but under my rules and not the social services, the social services was having none of it. after a lot of heartache and sleepless nights, i decided that the best thing for my daughter, and to get her out of the social services care, i requested she was put up for adoption on the understanding the social services left her alone. they refused, so i took it to court with the backing of the doctors and nspcc and won her the right to be left in peace. theres not a day goes by i dont think about her, whats shes doing, how shes gone on in school, ect, but i hope one day we will find each other. i still dont know to this day whether i did the right thing or not, i just did what i thought was best for her at the time. it was a very emotional and hard decision to make. i have kept hold of all the paperwork so she can read through it, then she will see the truth about what happened. i need a very very stiff drink now, and this is the very short version of events.

i might be speaking out of order here but social services are cnuts. How many children have been abused and murdered due to their incompetence and negligence whilst supposedly under their care, i forget her name but the coloured girl whose Aunty and Uncle burnt her with cigarettes etc.

 

Your story is disgusting Mario and shows a failure in the running of what is meant to be protecting those that need it.

 

My parents used to smack me and i mean HARD. I had handmarks for days from my dad when i was naughty and you know what, im grateful he did, he taught me respect and discipline and that i did not have carte blanche to do what i want. If i was naughty i knew the repercussions and i took the punishment, simple as.

 

Its disgusting reading a story like yours and i really feel for you, you did what any parent would have done.

 

Shocking

Mario, I so sorry to read that!

 

I hope one day things come right! {big hugs}

thank you sarah, 300zx girl. it does go to show though, not in all cases. that its not always the biological parents fault. i too hate the social services. i found out a few months later that the social services representative who used to pick her up, went off work sick, never to return to his job. i did make myself a promise though, if i ever see him again, i will knock him flat on his arse for what he did. unfortunately ive not bumped into him yet, maybe one day.

there are things in this thread that are making it very difficult for me to reply to & read, but heres my situation. i have a daughter to another woman, not my wife, who was adopted when she was 7 and now 17. i dont want to go into too much detail on a public forum but to cut it short. she was with her mother till an incident happened with her newborn to someone else. the social services got involved and ended up removing the kids from her and put them in a foster home. i went through court and got custody of her after a very long battle. she moved in with me, the wife and my other 2 daughters. the social services used to pick her up once a week and take her to a foster home where her mother visited her, under supervision. when she returned home she was in a right state, this happened for weeks and weeks. i thought it was just the way she was and a bit hypo from sweets ect. anyway, one day she came home from her mother, she pooed on the floor in the bedroom, wiped it all over the place, i went mad and smacked her, some of you do gooders may no agree with that, but that was the way us older ones were brought up & it never did us any harm. carrying on, i left a slight hand mark on her bum. i then rang the social services person who picked her up every week and told him what had happened. i was upfront and honest about it. he came round immediately and all hell broke loose. he took her straight to the hospital for examination with me present. afterwards he said she was now removed from my care and took her back to the foster home. eventually after a few weeks of talks, the doctors involved, the nspcc was on my side and wanted me to take her back. i said i would have her back, but under my rules and not the social services, the social services was having none of it. after a lot of heartache and sleepless nights, i decided that the best thing for my daughter, and to get her out of the social services care, i requested she was put up for adoption on the understanding the social services left her alone. they refused, so i took it to court with the backing of the doctors and nspcc and won her the right to be left in peace. theres not a day goes by i dont think about her, whats shes doing, how shes gone on in school, ect, but i hope one day we will find each other. i still dont know to this day whether i did the right thing or not, i just did what i thought was best for her at the time. it was a very emotional and hard decision to make. i have kept hold of all the paperwork so she can read through it, then she will see the truth about what happened. i need a very very stiff drink now, and this is the very short version of events.

 

thats sad mate, dont be hard on yourself you done what you felt was right for your Daughter at the time, if it helps i know how you are feeling. I didnt see my eldest son for over 10 years due to one thing or another, and had resigned myself to the fact i would never see him again, as i didnt know where he was, although i thought of him everyday. But by chance he saw me on TV and got in contact with me, but it was hard to get him to understand but that never helped with my guilt for not trying harder to find him. Point im trying to make is think positive you will be able to rebuild your relationship again one day with your Daughter.

thats sad mate, dont be hard on yourself you done what you felt was right for your Daughter at the time, if it helps i know how you are feeling. I didnt see my eldest son for over 10 years due to one thing or another, and had resigned myself to the fact i would never see him again, as i didnt know where he was, although i thought of him everyday. But by chance he saw me on TV and got in contact with me, but it was hard to get him to understand but that never helped with my guilt for not trying harder to find him. Point im trying to make is think positive you will be able to rebuild your relationship again one day with your Daughter.

 

 

i keep hoping mate. she is now at the age where she may be asking questions, i dont know. the only thing i do know is that her adoptive parents lived in rotherham somewhere at the time. they may have moved now though. cards have been sent by me and my parents, for her birthdays and at christmas every year. we had to send them to a social services address, they said she would recieve them all on her 16th birthday. i just hope that she has got them all otherwise i will be kicking off big time if i find out she hasnt. i only wish i could find out the adoptive parents surname from somewhere.

 

anyway. thats 2 things we have in common carl. zeds and kids.

i keep hoping mate. she is now at the age where she may be asking questions, i dont know. the only thing i do know is that her adoptive parents lived in rotherham somewhere at the time. they may have moved now though. cards have been sent by me and my parents, for her birthdays and at christmas every year. we had to send them to a social services address, they said she would recieve them all on her 16th birthday. i just hope that she has got them all otherwise i will be kicking off big time if i find out she hasnt. i only wish i could find out the adoptive parents surname from somewhere.

 

anyway. thats 2 things we have in common carl. zeds and kids.

 

yep both enough to send you grey

i keep hoping mate. she is now at the age where she may be asking questions, i dont know. the only thing i do know is that her adoptive parents lived in rotherham somewhere at the time. they may have moved now though. cards have been sent by me and my parents, for her birthdays and at christmas every year. we had to send them to a social services address, they said she would recieve them all on her 16th birthday. i just hope that she has got them all otherwise i will be kicking off big time if i find out she hasnt. i only wish i could find out the adoptive parents surname from somewhere.

 

anyway. thats 2 things we have in common carl. zeds and kids.

 

Thats a difficult one i hope they are decent people and explained everything to her.

I see the press asked Madeline's parents to deny they were involved in her disappearance!

 

 

Madeleine's parents deny involvement in toddler's abduction

By Ian Herbert

Published: 07 June 2007

 

The parents of Madeleine McCann have been forced to deny involvement in their daughter's abduction, after a German journalist suggested their actions since her disappearance had led many people to suspect them.

 

Kate McCann looked aghast and her husband Gerry's voice shook with emotion in response to a question by the radio journalist Sabine Müller at the start of the couple's visit to Berlin to raise awareness of Madeleine's disappearance 35 days ago. "More and more people seem to be pointing the finger at you, saying the way you behave is not the way people would normally behave when their child is abducted and they seem to imply that you might have something to do with it..."

 

...Later, the McCanns left for an emotional return to Amsterdam, where they lived until Madeleine was one. They will be flying back later today to the Algarve for a jazz concert in their daughter's name in Lagos, near the resort of Praia da Luz where she vanished.

 

 

 

full story

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2621807.ece

 

 

Reminds me of an episode of South Park.

I know they were taken a back, but lets be honest, these things do happen and parents have been known to murder their own children, although it should be the police finding the facts not some jumped up journo!!

this is the first i have heard about this, hope they find her alright

I know they were taken a back, but lets be honest, these things do happen and parents have been known to murder their own children, although it should be the police finding the facts not some jumped up journo!!

sometimes they do overlook things that are a bit closer to home, but im sure the police investigated them enough to be satisfied they had nothing to do with it, but then again your talking about Police who's biggest case has been investigating the loss of someones sunglasses

going off topic but what about the guy in London this week whose daughter walked in on him and his wife at it, so he beat her that badly she later died in hospital.

i too hope they find her, but what the parents did was down right irresponsible, and to think think that they are both in the medical field as well. they should have known better.

i too hope they find her, but what the parents did was down right irresponsible, and to think think that they are both in the medical field as well. they should have known better.

 

exactly what i said in the begining when she first went

sorry to read that mario!

 

i lived in care for 4years from the age of 12-16 social services to me are a fookin joke, the things they use to write in my reports would make a grown man become upset, that aside there are also some great people who looked after me, that today are like family

 

point is the way social services deal with famileys that wish to adopt or care for a child put famileys through hell before they can have a child, the very child who has also had a tough time to be made even tougher, until it comes to when there older and there scarred mentally and its true FACT

 

day before yesterday portsmouth local autorities have decided any parent wishing to adopt must not smoke! LOL so if you smoke your not good enouth look after children, il tell you what this country is ****ed.

 

greg

Its a bloody farce.

 

No wonder couples are looking abroad to adopt.

 

You cant smoke yet you can be a homosexual couple???!!! Not that i am in any way homophobic but im pretty sure that might be a little harder to explain to a child and to help them throught the teasing they will get at school than to explain why daddy smokes

 

fookin stupid

Its a bloody farce.

 

No wonder couples are looking abroad to adopt.

 

You cant smoke yet you can be a homosexual couple???!!! Not that i am in any way homophobic but im pretty sure that might be a little harder to explain to a child and to help them throught the teasing they will get at school than to explain why daddy smokes

 

fookin stupid

exactly :rant:

this government has a lot to answer for, they are fookin the country up. no wonder so many british are moving abroad. heres a few examples.

 

1) latest one. banning smoking in pubs. i dont think they have realised what they will do to certain country pubs when the winter comes. how many pubs will have to close due to lack of revenue ?, how many jobs will be lost ?, what will the government slap more tax on to account for the loss ?. the mind boggles.

 

2) 4x4 tax £400. LMFAO. they will kill the sales of new 4x4s. more jobs lost.

 

 

3) banned handguns. they did this due to public demand over dunblain. yes, it was an awful thing to happen, but what good has banning them done ? NOTHING. in fact, its made the situation worse. theres more shootings now than ever before, plus they spoilt a hobby for 1000s of people. makes my blood boil.

 

 

will leave you with those for now.

by 4x4 do they mean cars such as Subarus and skylines?