a mate of mine received a NIP claiming he jumped a red. he requested photo evidence and got three pictures on a sheet of A4 paper.

first one shows the lights red with all of his car PAST the white line bar the rear wheels. second one (timed within the same second) shows him ahead of the line and turning the left corner. third one just a close-up of first piccie so you can see the reg plate.

he thought he left it a little late (obviously) but the majority of his car was over the line while the lights were amber. any ideas where he stands guys?

does the first picture show the exact millisecond the lights went red and if so what does the law say about how much of the car should be past the line for it to be an offence?

Think you will find that the camera gives you a few seconds. Also if you say I went over the line when amber they will say Amber means stop if safe to do so. if it wasnt safe to do so they will claim you were going too fast! if he has a clean licence I would say best to hold his hand up, a trip to court has the potential to cost

Well, the highway code says to stop unless it would cause a hazard to the driver or to other road users by stopping sharply - or words to that effect. Perhaps he can say he was being tailgated and thought it best to continue?

Well, the highway code says to stop unless it would cause a hazard to the driver or to other road users by stopping sharply - or words to that effect. Perhaps he can say he was being tailgated and thought it best to continue?

 

does not work if there is not a pic of the car tailgating, and if he managed to stop he could not have been that close. lights stay amber for 10 seconds at which point you should slow

does not work if there is not a pic of the car tailgating, and if he managed to stop he could not have been that close. lights stay amber for 10 seconds at which point you should slow

 

10 seconds :confused: 3 more like!

 

no tailgating unfortunately - apparently the traffic around this blind corner was queued up so when my mate thought it safe to pass through the lights he and this car that was directly in front of him which had also passed through the ambers (albeit early ambers) were both suddenly slowed as they turned the corner and joined the queue.

:x: Bang to rights Dave sorry fella, as others have said Amber means stop if safe to do so :(

:x: Bang to rights Dave sorry fella, as others have said Amber means stop if safe to do so :(

 

b*gger :( what sort of penalty is he looking at (clean licence)?

Fixed £60 and 3 points IIRC :slap: