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People call internet explorer for being insecure, but firefox is open source. So any one can look at the code and find problems and security holes in it. Internet Explorer is closed so the only way to find security holes is by hammering it.

Sure, but one of the good things about open source development is that you have a lot of people who are looking for problems, and ways to improve things, in a constructive manner.

Sure, but one of the good things about open source development is that you have a lot of people who are looking for problems, and ways to improve things, in a constructive manner.

 

 

That is very true. But that only works if every one who finds a security problem

 

A) Did it for the good of the program and not for personal exploitation.

B) Told the developers about it.

C) Dont tell any one else about it other than the developers.

D) The developers fix the problem.

 

There are many thousands of people who will find holes in the security to use for their personal use. ;)

That is very true. But that only works if every one who finds a security problem

 

A) Did it for the good of the program and not for personal exploitation.

B) Told the developers about it.

C) Dont tell any one else about it other than the developers.

D) The developers fix the problem.

 

There are many thousands of people who will find holes in the security to use for their personal use. ;)

 

Again, I agree, but the very nature of open source, in a popular program, or OS means there are many people dissecting the program just to see how it works, or to try and improve it. Of these people, of course there are going to be those out for personal gain, or just plain malicious, but I think it's wrong to think that out of all the people concerned, only the bad ones will find (and then exploit) the holes. That is to cast aspersions on the open source community as a whole.

 

Compare this to the MS way - top secret / hush hush development, covering up critical security flaws from the public until a patch is released (sometimes after much time has passed). By its very nature, a program so widely used as IE will attract the greater number of hackers / expoliters (call them what you will). Couple this with the comparative lack of people able to develop and "bug search" at home, and to me, at least, the argument for more open source development just gets stronger.

Again, I agree, but the very nature of open source, in a popular program, or OS means there are many people dissecting the program just to see how it works, or to try and improve it. Of these people, of course there are going to be those out for personal gain, or just plain malicious, but I think it's wrong to think that out of all the people concerned, only the bad ones will find (and then exploit) the holes. That is to cast aspersions on the open source community as a whole.

 

Compare this to the MS way - top secret / hush hush development, covering up critical security flaws from the public until a patch is released (sometimes after much time has passed). By its very nature, a program so widely used as IE will attract the greater number of hackers / expoliters (call them what you will). Couple this with the comparative lack of people able to develop and "bug search" at home, and to me, at least, the argument for more open source development just gets stronger.

 

It attracts a greater number of hackers because 90% of internet users use it. If you find a flaw in Firefox, which there will be, you are then limited to causing havoc on a very small percentage of internet users. So targeting IE is the easiest and obvious option.

Plus the way IE is intergrated into windows means if you find a flaw in the browser you have probably got a flaw in the file browser system

It attracts a greater number of hackers because 90% of internet users use it. If you find a flaw in Firefox, which there will be, you are then limited to causing havoc on a very small percentage of internet users. So targeting IE is the easiest and obvious option.

Plus the way IE is intergrated into windows means if you find a flaw in the browser you have probably got a flaw in the file browser system

 

I'll agree with that :) - every program will have flaws, you can't expect anything else when you take into consideration that just about every PC out there is going to be different. I think it's well worth repeating though, that whatever browser, OS or program you choose, you should check for security updates at least once a week. A neglected installation of your program of choice isn't going to be as secure as a fully patched installation of its contemporaries.

I'll agree with that :) - every program will have flaws, you can't expect anything else when you take into consideration that just about every PC out there is going to be different. I think it's well worth repeating though, that whatever browser, OS or program you choose, you should check for security updates at least once a week. A neglected installation of your program of choice isn't going to be as secure as a fully patched installation of its contemporaries.

 

We should stop agreeing, its making this post boring :rofl:

 

I wonder if we should have a PC section, where people can post up software updates and post their PC problems.

We should stop agreeing, its making this post boring :rofl:

 

I wonder if we should have a PC section, where people can post up software updates and post their PC problems.

 

On the first point, if it'll make things more interesting, I'll disagree vehemently with anything you say ;) :rofl:

 

On the second point, no I think that's a terrible idea, with nothing going for it whatsoever ;)

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