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Is anyone a domestic electrician?

Do we have any domestic electricans in the Northwest that fancy some work on the side?? :)

 

Looks like there is some re-wiring to be done in a house I have just bought :(

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Yeah, good luck on that one!

 

However much you think it will cost, double it and add another couple of hundred and you'll probably be somewhere close!

 

Don't even get me started on plumbers! :pinch:

I'd help you out but you are miiiiles away lol :thumbdown:

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Yeah, good luck on that one!

 

However much you think it will cost, double it and add another couple of hundred and you'll probably be somewhere close!

 

Don't even get me started on plumbers! :pinch:

 

Thats what im affraid of!

 

bit to far for me or i would have

 

Cheers mate, it is a long way for you! Thanks anyway :)

 

I'd help you out but you are miiiiles away lol :thumbdown:

 

Thanks mate! I appreciate the offer!

 

 

Just out of interest though, does anyone have any rough ideas as to what its going to be - basically I've bought a 1930's semi, I'm not sure if it was gas or electric lit from new BUT the currant lighting circuits are of some hideous age. Dad said its cotton sheathed wiring??! I.e pre plastic days.

 

Upstairs

3 bed rooms, one light fitting and one switch per bedroom.

2 light fittings and 2 switches in the bathroom at the moment (its a seperate loo)

1 light fitting on the landing but on a double switched circuit to a switch downstairs.

 

Downstairs

1 light fitting and one switch in both the lounge and dining room

1 light fitting and 1 switch in the kitchen

1 light fitting in the hall with a double switch (second switch is part of double switched circuit to landing light)

 

 

It appears that there is conduit running from the loft to each of the light switches and conduit to each of the fittings in both upstairs and downstairs so pulling cables should be fairly easy, i'm considering having a go at it my self.

 

Basically the house has been rewired for the power sockets at some point in the not too distant past (although they left it as a single socket per room grrr)

I'm on with putting more sockets in the rooms as I go along, the problem is with the lighting situation is that really it all needs doing. As I wanted to do one room at once I wasnt intending on trashing the entire house - however since I have to take all the upstairs flooring up and mess with the walls etc in all the rooms just to do the first job I might just trash it all and have to find the money somehow.

 

Sorry not much point to this post just ranting/rambling :D

My 3 bed semi cost 2.8k for a full rewire including as many sockets and lights as I wanted. Also a new fuse board/breaker panel which was relocated upstairs out of the way and two external motion lamps. Gave me about 400 quid discount because I paid in cash, I seem to remember. I thought it would cost about 700-800 quid. HA!

 

My house was post-war so at least plastic had been invented then. The problem was the DIY idiot who had lived in the house before me. I kid you not, in the old fuse box was a plug socket, which had an extension cable run outside through a ventilation block - continued up the side of the house, back in through another ventilation brick and was then plastered into a wall. I ripped out the wire from the wall, until I came to and odd ceramic junction type thing which split it 3 ways to all the sockets in the bedroom. My electrician laughed when he saw that - then drew air loudly through his lips while shaking his head. I was completely re-decorating though (plaster, ceilings, floors - everything) so I didn't care how much the electrician butchered things - it also made their job a lot easier and quicker. If you're not planning to do this, then it could cost more..

 

I also got an NICIEC (?) certificate to say my wiring was safe - whoopey fookin doo!

Chris

 

do you know Matty Jeff , he is one of my Inst Engineers , works for me out here in Kazakhstan, give him a call he knows a good few house sparkies in morecambe lancaster area ...failing that if you do it yourself your now breaking the law as you need to be registered and the house would never sell on .....you could always do it yourself though and have it checked and certified by a registered sparky lots cheaper ....third optin do it yourself , if and when you come to sell it say it was re wired just before you bought it by a guy who is a sparky by trade but he moved overseas ...... :)

 

if your stuck in a few weeks when im home i will give you hand to do it mate,

i used to be a sparky, and rewired a few houses and a warehouse, you might even need a new dis board, so before you start ripping cables out, it might be an idea to get in a electrician for a quote for work, and see what he thinks it needs doing, failing that, i can get hold of my old boss and see if he wants to come up with me and do it off the books as a favour to a mate.

 

Rewiring the house is pretty straight forward, but if you need to change the distribution board and stick one in with better isolation units, then its going to go past DIY matey.

i can do a lot of electrical work myself, but for a full rewire and new boards i would get a sparky in, ive seen a house burn to the ground more or less due to a so called kitchen fitter rewire a kitchen

iv done a fair few rewires and prices can range from 2 to 4 grand to be honest if it was me doing it id be more happy to rewire everything even though the sockets have been done at a previous date chances are probably still black and red cables.then that way i knew everything was done by me and is done corectly. as for the lights id imagine there would be a junction box some where in the cealings with only 2 single core cables at each point eg swith and light so if you were doing it yourself make sure you are confident about doing the junction box or it can end up a knightmare to correct if done wrong lol

 

its not a hard job to do for a novice as long as you took your time even the distribution board could be done

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My 3 bed semi cost 2.8k for a full rewire including as many sockets and lights as I wanted. Also a new fuse board/breaker panel which was relocated upstairs out of the way and two external motion lamps. Gave me about 400 quid discount because I paid in cash, I seem to remember. I thought it would cost about 700-800 quid. HA!

 

My house was post-war so at least plastic had been invented then. The problem was the DIY idiot who had lived in the house before me. I kid you not, in the old fuse box was a plug socket, which had an extension cable run outside through a ventilation block - continued up the side of the house, back in through another ventilation brick and was then plastered into a wall. I ripped out the wire from the wall, until I came to and odd ceramic junction type thing which split it 3 ways to all the sockets in the bedroom. My electrician laughed when he saw that - then drew air loudly through his lips while shaking his head. I was completely re-decorating though (plaster, ceilings, floors - everything) so I didn't care how much the electrician butchered things - it also made their job a lot easier and quicker. If you're not planning to do this, then it could cost more..

 

I also got an NICIEC (?) certificate to say my wiring was safe - whoopey fookin doo!

 

Mine isnt that bad thank god lol. However I wont be going that far either!

 

Chris

 

do you know Matty Jeff , he is one of my Inst Engineers , works for me out here in Kazakhstan, give him a call he knows a good few house sparkies in morecambe lancaster area ...failing that if you do it yourself your now breaking the law as you need to be registered and the house would never sell on .....you could always do it yourself though and have it checked and certified by a registered sparky lots cheaper ....third optin do it yourself , if and when you come to sell it say it was re wired just before you bought it by a guy who is a sparky by trade but he moved overseas ...... :)

 

if your stuck in a few weeks when im home i will give you hand to do it mate,

 

Ah yeah Matt has done a couple of house renovations hasnt he, as with this law rubbish there is no proof of whos done it, and no requirement to sell a house with an electrical certificate, renting becomes a tricky issue in theory but there are ways round it with grandfather rights. I just can't say its all been rewired if I do come to sell!

 

i used to be a sparky, and rewired a few houses and a warehouse, you might even need a new dis board, so before you start ripping cables out, it might be an idea to get in a electrician for a quote for work, and see what he thinks it needs doing, failing that, i can get hold of my old boss and see if he wants to come up with me and do it off the books as a favour to a mate.

 

Rewiring the house is pretty straight forward, but if you need to change the distribution board and stick one in with better isolation units, then its going to go past DIY matey.

 

No plans to change the distribution board, dad and I did talk about it but have decided to stick with a fuse box thats fitted, its the same in our house at home. They have their advantages over a set of relays!

 

i can do a lot of electrical work myself, but for a full rewire and new boards i would get a sparky in, ive seen a house burn to the ground more or less due to a so called kitchen fitter rewire a kitchen

 

Yeah there is that risk, Dad has done all of our house though and all looks good. Infact we have already done the sockets in one room and it looks great.

 

iv done a fair few rewires and prices can range from 2 to 4 grand to be honest if it was me doing it id be more happy to rewire everything even though the sockets have been done at a previous date chances are probably still black and red cables.then that way i knew everything was done by me and is done corectly. as for the lights id imagine there would be a junction box some where in the cealings with only 2 single core cables at each point eg swith and light so if you were doing it yourself make sure you are confident about doing the junction box or it can end up a knightmare to correct if done wrong lol

 

its not a hard job to do for a novice as long as you took your time even the distribution board could be done

 

Yeah cheers mate to be honest I'll be doing the cabling I think, then dad will connect it all up to make sure its absolutly A - OK.

 

He is an industrial electrical engineer so the knowledge is no issue. The problem is the time, he is busy and so am I, however if its going to be 2k-4k then I have no option! Cant afford to spend that, especially if it can be done my self!

 

No plans to change the distribution board, dad and I did talk about it but have decided to stick with a fuse box thats fitted, its the same in our house at home. They have their advantages over a set of relays!

 

 

if they are used correctly! I removed a rewirable fuse the other week to find that instead of using the correct fuse wire there was a nail in there!!! :scared:

plus you get a fuse board for about 70 quid now, the amout of boards iv changed because they have had the wrong fuse wire in an thus melted the the cable and then the fuse carriers ect

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if they are used correctly! I removed a rewirable fuse the other week to find that instead of using the correct fuse wire there was a nail in there!!! :scared:

 

Some people are idiots I'll admit!

 

plus you get a fuse board for about 70 quid now, the amout of boards iv changed because they have had the wrong fuse wire in an thus melted the the cable and then the fuse carriers ect

 

Again silly and dangerous, it isnt as convienient I know but got to draw the line somwhere! lol

[quote name=...failing that if you do it yourself your now breaking the law as you need to be registered and the house would never sell on .....you could always do it yourself though and have it checked and certified by a registered sparky lots cheaper ....third optin do it yourself , if and when you come to sell it say it was re wired just before you bought it by a guy who is a sparky by trade but he moved overseas ...... :)

 

if your stuck in a few weeks when im home i will give you hand to do it mate,[/quote]

 

 

If it's been re-wired for sockets already you can have a go yourself if you're practical. You can swap all your singles for doubles yourself and maybe add one additional as a 'spur' from each (this was done when you bought it right? ;-) !!) get the board Swapped for PCB's at minimum by a spark and then get it certified by an Electrician..I re-wired and split the downstairs ring main to two on my 1930's rental a couple of years back when i knocked two rooms into one...

 

I told the Spark that i'd added & Swapped for new and he commented how good my work was. I had a 3 year sign off for rental from a totally independant company. It is possible to do some work as long as you know what you're doing. Unfortunatly, there are some idiots out there who still need to be protected from their own stupidity and can't wire up a plug!...that's why it's now law that you need to be qualified and registered to work on them...

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